boba23

Hey,

dunno if this is of interest for many users of this forum, but i think few folks had similiar problems as i did, experiencing opengl slideshows or crashes, when trying to use Omega Drivers, or Modded Catalysts on Mobility FireGL 9000 cards, especially in IBM Thinkpads (i have a T40p).

anyways, i've been having trouble with opengl for almost half a year now, not that i needed it very much, but just knowing it dont work correctly was enough ;-)

anyways, a week ago i tried the latest official IBM driver release, and boom opengl worked again, e.g. GLQuake stopped running as a slideshow with 1-2 fps but now at 100+ fps.

i started comparing the latest omega release and those official IBM's, since the last omegas still give me the opengl fuckup.

first thing i noticed, ibm drivers install both opengl dll's "atioglxx.dll" AND "atioglgl.dll"
next thing i did was use the atioglxx.dll from omegas, copy it over the ibm one, and copy it als as atioglgl.dll, so i used the omega dll for BOTH ibm dll's .
result -> opengl working still perfectly. so the driver itself is not the problem.
it seems very much to me as it is mainly a .inf file problem. i spent few hours, comparing the different .inf files from omega and ibm, and found out some differences concerning opengl stuff.
anyways, i modified the original ibm inf, so that it uses the whole omega .dll set, so now i have a fully cat 4.12 driver set using that ibm .inf file.
just installed it and it's working perfectly, no opengl probs, control panel is fine, cept for there is still no opengl tab to change options, but well u can change those using ati tray tools or smth.

perhaps if you guys find the time, omega developers or patje as mobility modder, you could have a look at that ibm .inf file and check if you could include the right stuff in your future inf files, so that mobility firegl cards can use the opengl drivers the right way....

anyone who is interested in testing those drivers, just reply and i'll get in touch with ya and send the modded driver.....

regards

boba

PS: sorry for this long post :P

chacal277

Hey, i'm interested!
I have a T42P and Doom III keeps crashing with the Omega drivers (because of OpenGL), but works with the ibm one
So I'd like to try your drivers, so as to see if I can play with a better framerate than the one i HAVE to play with, the IBM drivers are not optimized at all
Thx

boba23

hey chacal,

no prob, but i think you have a FireGL T2, meaning a mobility 9600 in your T42p, right?
i would have to check my modded .inf file if i did any changes that were mobility 9000/fire gl 9000 specific and mod the related stuff for the GL T2 as well .... lemme know what adapter you have exactly.

boba

chacal277

Yes, I have a FireGL T2
There are differencies between a FireGL T2 and a mobility 9600 but the FireGL T2 is based on the 9600
http://www.ati.com/companyinfo/press/2003/4702.html
I don't know what you're looking for so this link may help

boba23

ok, will look into .inf tonight and get back to ya, i can send ya the inf and cat files then, all you need to do left is copy all the .dll's and stuff from omega inf folder to the new modded driver folder together with my modded inf and cat....then simply install driver via device manager -> update driver -> chose the modded driver folder
then just use control panel of Cat 4.12

bye

boba

The Captain

Hey boba23! I also have a mobility firegl t2 in my labtop. It would be great if you could send me the modded files. However, I would actually be more interested if you could explain the differences in the inf file to me. I have been struggling with the opengl problem you described so long that I have considered trying to modify my video bios to make my video card appear to be a regular mobility 9600.

Thanks.
my email is chronomitch@yahoo.com

boba23

hey

hehe captain i was about to do the same with my firegl 9000, flash bios i mean, actually i tried it already, but bios is locked somehow, anyways i am happy it didnt work now hehe, i might have killed my card. who knows.

anyways, here's what i did, just went through the inf file, not many relevant changes, the inf file i heavily modified, was the omega one, but that try didn't work.....allright here's what i did:

1) change version strings in inf file to the one's of the omega inf file.
2) changed the following lines:

[SourceDisksNames.x86]
1 = %DiskId%,,,.\B_18853

[SourceDisksNames.ia64]
1 = %DiskID%,,,.\B_18853

to

[SourceDisksNames.x86]
1 = %DiskId%,,,""

[SourceDisksNames.ia64]
1 = %DiskID%,,,""

cause i keep all the dll's and stuff of the driver in the same dir as the inf file, which is not the case in the original ibm driver package, you got the dll's packed in the B_18853 directory.

4) change the following version strings, important if you wanna have all control panel options know from desktop radeon cards/drivers:

DriverVer=09/29/2004, 6.14.10.6483

to

DriverVer=11/30/2004, 6.14.10.6497


Driver",DisplayVersion,,"8.062.2-041023m-019104C-IBM"

to

Driver",DisplayVersion,,"8.082-041130a-019577C-ATI"

HKLM,"Software\ATI Technologies\CBT",ReleaseVersion,,"8.062.2-041023m-019104C-IBM"

to

HKLM,"Software\ATI Technologies\CBT",ReleaseVersion,,"8.082-041130a-019577C-ATI"

and

HKR,, Catalyst_Version,,"0"

to

HKR,, Catalyst_Version,,"4.12"


3) took the CX_19577.cat catalogue file from the original Catalyst 4.12 package, copied it into my new driver directory, renamed it to Cx_19104.cat (that's what the ibm inf file looks for, you could prolly change that in the inf file, and keep the original name of the cat file from catalyst 4.12).

4) copied over all files from the original omega 4.12 drivers 2kxp_inf directory to my new driver directory EXCEPT for the omega inf file CX2K_RAD_OMEGA.inf, you don't copy over that one, since u use the new modified inf file for install. i am pretty sure you dont need ALL other files too, but i was not able to figure out what files are needed exactly. anyways the new modified inf file takes and finds the files it needs. to be safe copy all as i said above.

5) copied the atioglxx.dll in the new driver directory to atioglgl.dll. so that you have the same file just with 2 different names in the new driver directory. (omega drivers only got 1 ogl driver file "atioglxx.dll" , original ibm driver uses those 2 files, thats why u copy the xx file to gl, so that you have 2 atiogl driver files in your new directory)

i hope i didn't forget something...

now you should have 1 directory, with the modified ibm inf file, the .cat file renamed from original cat 4.12 driver, and all the dll and other files from omega 4.12 release.

btw, if you use win2k you should mod C2_19104.inf, if you use XP Cx_19104.inf. u only need the inf file related to your OS.

now uninstall your old drivers/cpanel etc....use driver cleaner to get rid of everything.

reboot

windows should detect unknown vga adapter, continue to install driver, chose search for driver manually etc etc...then try installing your fire GL T2 or fire gl 9000 as Mobility 9000 or Mob 9600, depending on what your card is based on. i run my fire gl as Mobility 9000 now. and it works perfectly. but it should also work if you chose Fire GL as the card to install, since my opengl functions worked fine with the original IBM driver installed as Fire GL.....just try both.

then go and simply install the control panel from original Cat 4.12 package, that's what i use....

allright, just don't blame me if this stuff doesn't work for you, it does for me, but i can't gurantee anything :-P

post here or PM for further questions ...

i'll email you my .inf file for XP captain...

boba23

The Captain

Thanks for all of your help boba23! I finally found the source of the problem!

Like you, I first tried modifying Omega's .inf file. That didn't work (no opengl).

Then I tried doing what you suggested using the original drivers that came with my system. I copied all of the files from Omega's drivers over, but I also copied in Omega's special "tweaks" that were in his .inf file into my original driver's .inf file. In short, this didn't work (no opengl again).

Finally, I did what I did before, except I removed Omega's "tweaks" from my .inf file. This finally worked! So the problem lies somewhere in Omega's "tweak" section in his .inf file.

chacal277

Could you send me modified .inf please
I'd like to try those tweaked omega drivers

boba23

hey captain,

glad i could help, this problem annoyed me for months as well :-P

take care

boba

boba23

ah one more thing captain, do you have an opengl tab now in ati control panel, as mentioned earlier, i still don't have that opengl tab, i do have it in my desktop radeon cat 4.12 with a x800xt but not on the notebook...
though i can change the open gl settings via ati tray tools or similiar gfx tools ...

boba

The Captain

I am actually using Omega's drivers now. I installed them just like usual, except that I switched out the original .inf file with a modified one before they were installed. In the modified one, I just had to remove the "tweak" sections that Omega had made.

After installation, I had to add some registry entries, but that is not neccessary if you mod the .inf file correctly.

Anyway, to make it easier for you, I'll email you a modified .inf that should work with your card.

Oh, to answer your question, Omega's drivers has the radlinker tab under "advanced 3d."

chacal277

Thx to The Captain and his modified .inf file, everything works perfectly for me
I used to have an opengl problem, which means doom 3 didn't work with the omega drivers but now, it runs well, i win nearly 10 fps (okay, the ibm drivers are not optimized at all...)in doom 3, I didn't try other games
One more time: thx to The Captain and to boba23

flax

Hi all,

I know it's been a while since this thread was active. Anyway - for me, it becomes important again. Does anyone have a solution on this meanwhile or an old working driver package which he could upload or send to me? I need to get OpenGL to work on my T40p....

thanks!

dnspics

Hi,
I become a T41 with a ATI Mobility fireGL 9000 and have big OpenGL-Problemes.
Were can I get the modded Driver?

kfc73

The 1rd631ww.exe (2/2005) driver package supports OpenGL 1.3 fully. I found it here:

http://bulma.net/~jander/tmp/1rd631ww.exe

I've also uploaded it to mediafire for anyone who likes to download it:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/txe3ll3gjzy/1rd631ww.exe

I've also made a couple of changes to it to fully support high-resolution DVI output (thru the port replicator). I modified a few lines in the INF file to get this working (took a few days trial & error ). You can download that from:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/djmzkx...W-MODIFIED.zip