5.1 ATI Drivers..

*CATALYST maker* · Jan 13, 2005, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zardon

You need to get better sources.

Widkidone · Jan 13, 2005, 11:27 PM

So Terry any info on the 5.1's????

Genius · Jan 13, 2005, 11:38 PM

Well... he's logged into the forums so I guess that's a plus

*CATALYST maker* · Jan 13, 2005, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Widkidone

So Terry any info on the 5.1's????

well there are alot of people in here that claim to know what's going on, but people the only one in here that knows anything about these drivers is Zardon, and possibly Veridian. (along with the beta testers).

well what can i tell you about 5.1's?
-it wont have digitial vibrance (whatever that is) as suggested on these forums
-it will be available sometime between now and a week from now
-i havent seen any performance increases reported on them
-CCC will support all RADEON's now and should run faster

Nothing major to be honest. Just a decent, solid update without much flash and bang

Genius · Jan 13, 2005, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CATALYST maker

it will be available sometime between now and a week from now

Then I'd have to guess next Wednesday or Thursday. Can't be very close to now or you'd know for sure

Widkidone · Jan 13, 2005, 11:46 PM

Thank you Terry..... i was getting overly excited for them, LMAO!!

Seraphic · Jan 13, 2005, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CATALYST maker

-it wont have digitial vibrance (whatever that is) as suggested on these forums

That is a bit disappointing, I'm really missing it as I've just moved from nVidia to ATI.

brandon105 · Jan 13, 2005, 11:55 PM

You don't know what digitial vibrance is?...that=sad im afraid to say. ATI needs to quit releasing drivers that have no features or new implementations, so what your saying is that these drivers arent any different than the 4.12?...if not, why release them? And you seriusly need to think about putting digital vibrance in there.

Poppi · Jan 13, 2005, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CATALYST maker

well there are alot of people in here that claim to know what's going on, but people the only one in here that knows anything about these drivers is Zardon, and possibly Veridian. (along with the beta testers).

well what can i tell you about 5.1's?
-it wont have digitial vibrance (whatever that is) as suggested on these forums
-it will be available sometime between now and a week from now
-i havent seen any performance increases reported on them
-CCC will support all RADEON's now and should run faster

Nothing major to be honest. Just a decent, solid update without much flash and bang

Thanks Boss

brandon105 · Jan 13, 2005, 11:57 PM

pfffff

Aja · Jan 13, 2005, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CATALYST maker

well there are alot of people in here that claim to know what's going on, but people the only one in here that knows anything about these drivers is Zardon, and possibly Veridian. (along with the beta testers).

well what can i tell you about 5.1's?
-it wont have digitial vibrance (whatever that is) as suggested on these forums
-it will be available sometime between now and a week from now
-i havent seen any performance increases reported on them
-CCC will support all RADEON's now and should run faster

Nothing major to be honest. Just a decent, solid update without much flash and bang

That's fine, just make sure to fix this problem.

brandon105 · Jan 14, 2005, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aja

That's fine, just make sure to fix this problem.

Yea, there needs to be alot of performance fixes in the new drivers, who cares about CCC? I know I dont. (Digital Vibrance in your drivers would also atract more customers)

Zardon · Jan 14, 2005, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandon105

You don't know what digitial vibrance is?...that=sad im afraid to say. ATI needs to quit releasing drivers that have no features or new implementations, so what your saying is that these drivers arent any different than the 4.12?...if not, why release them? And you seriusly need to think about putting digital vibrance in there.

Ok firstly I suggest you read the posts before commenting and then before you comment you post with a little respect. there will be performance increases with CCC as Terry said and just because you dont like CCC, doesnt mean others feel the same way. There are going to be some exciting developments with CCC trust me on this and its improving quite well I have to say. Have a little faith in Terry and ATI.

RaZ0r! · Jan 14, 2005, 12:15 AM

DVC is just a 'gee wiz' feature in my opinion. When I had an Nvidia card, I played with it and then always ended up just turning it off. Just makes all the colors look wrong.

Chaos · Jan 14, 2005, 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandon105

Yea, there needs to be alot of performance fixes in the new drivers, who cares about CCC? I know I dont. (Digital Vibrance in your drivers would also atract more customers)

personally the performance of recent catalyst has been good for me, mind you i bought an X800 Pro so that could be why i am happy with performance. i would think when a company moves to monthly driver releases, bug fixes tend to be the most noticable changes unless they discover something major in the interm.

Bicka · Jan 14, 2005, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaZ0r!

DVC is just a 'gee wiz' feature in my opinion. When I had an Nvidia card, I played with it and then always ended up just turning it off. Just makes all the colors look wrong.

When I had my ti4400 I always kept it on, no question. Everything always looked drop dead gorgeous with it on.

Whenever I'm messing with pictures now, I'm always upping the contrast and saturation.

Example of digital vibrance:
http://www.nvnews.net/reviews/evga_m...l_vibrance.jpg

Zardon · Jan 14, 2005, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bicka

When I had my ti4400 I always kept it on, no question. Everything always looked drop dead gorgeous with it on.

Whenever I'm messing with pictures now, I'm always upping the contrast and saturation.

Example of digital vibrance:
http://www.nvnews.net/reviews/evga_m...l_vibrance.jpg

I used it on my nvidia card yes and its impressive, but that image is highly suspect, that is not just a saturation or contrast increase that is virtually a total removal of magenta from the cyan midtones (and green leaf), if my original image looked that poor id be asking questions.

Stop It · Jan 14, 2005, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandon105

Yea, there needs to be alot of performance fixes in the new drivers, who cares about CCC? I know I dont. (Digital Vibrance in your drivers would also atract more customers)

Say that again, slowly, then think about it, how many people think "ooh, Ill get that gx card, cause its got digital vibrance!!", um, none, cause its just a contrast boost really. EDIT : In fact it wasnt even mentioned on my GFX card box, And its not hyped up on the nvid Site either, its a nice tool but not a "must have" feature. not on a Samsung TFT anyway

Anyway the ATI team are *as always* working on subtle changes to the drivers, optimizing the code a bit better, and developing the CC a bit more, (shame really because I bought a 6800 just as the CCC was getting somewhere, and the bugs I switched from ATI for Like the KOTOR crash bug, was fixed, grr).

Right, I sincerly hope the 5 series drivers suck, yes, thats right, if ATI came out with a uberset that made the x800 series totally destroy the 6800, I would cry, so ner :P No seriously , damn fine job you're doing CM, keep it up

brandon105 · Jan 14, 2005, 01:05 AM

I think the x800 series already blow the 6800 outta the water.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Jan 14, 2005, 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seraphic

That is a bit disappointing, I'm really missing it as I've just moved from nVidia to ATI.

Digital vibrance as nvidia calls it.... seems to NEEDED on NV cards to display collors good a few duel users have told me... They said they didn't need it on thier ati card

guess thier coolors are right in the 1st place?

hey don't look at me just repeating what i've already read....

Rayder · Jan 14, 2005, 05:04 AM

On an ATI card, it will NOT be called Digital Vibrance. It will be called Color Radiance.
The CCC will work for ALL Radeon cards in the 5.1's. There's your new feature.

Beng · Jan 14, 2005, 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rayder

On an ATI card, it will NOT be called Digital Vibrance. It will be called Color Radiance.

Mmm, reading Terry M. words:

"it won't have digital vibrance (whatever that is)"

I'm afraid it will never come.

TJ- · Jan 14, 2005, 05:23 AM

so any worrd on the new drivers...?

Alex T. · Jan 14, 2005, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beng

Mmm, reading Terry M. words:

"it won't have digital vibrance (whatever that is)"

I'm afraid it will never come.

It will come, all in due time. I prefer a faster and more stable CCC with options to disable the splash screen and game preview window

talhakhan · Jan 14, 2005, 10:26 AM

Hello
i am new to this forum...

well i hope that catalyst 5.1 will be faster and stable..
Thank GOD now i can also use CCC on my good old radeon 9200se...

hope they'll release soon..may be tomorrow or may be next week..

Beng · Jan 14, 2005, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex T.

It will come, all in due time. I prefer a faster and more stable CCC with options to disable the splash screen and game preview window

I hardly look in the CCC itself anymore, i have all kind of settings under my rightmouseklick/profiles:

4xAA/8xAF
6xAA/16xAF
AA/AF Appl contr
etc. etc. etc.

A whole list with all the settings i want. I think this was usefull when i noticed the long loading times of the CCC itself.

AndreyPopov · Jan 14, 2005, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CATALYST maker

well what can i tell you about 5.1's?
-it wont have digitial vibrance (whatever that is) as suggested on these forums
-it will be available sometime between now and a week from now
-i havent seen any performance increases reported on them
-CCC will support all RADEON's now and should run faster

Terry! one question:

now, in Cat 5.1, CCC can support two or more installed Radeon videocards?
I have X800 AGP and AIW VE PCI.

UnTouchAble · Jan 14, 2005, 04:42 PM

No performance increase or digi vib

?

O'well

pir8nyc · Jan 14, 2005, 09:59 PM

Yeah, me colors look good, also performance is actually quite good (aside from the memory leak/aperture size/largesystemcache business).

From what he said it seems that the improvement is in CCC, which I don't use anyway.

Do wish that they get together with VIA to fix the 8X AGP bug. Other than that, I'll be happy to get the new drivers at least they are trying.

multiblitz · Jan 14, 2005, 10:21 PM

Will there be a driver which will incease video quality of the x800 and match the quality of the 6800 ?
Please have a view on the moon example http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2305&p=6
I have many DVDs here where this shortcome of the x800 are clearly visible.

Jan 13, 2005, 11:27 PM	#32
Widkidone DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Diego, Ca Posts: 711 Rep Power: 0	So Terry any info on the 5.1's???? __________________ Case- Cooler Master ATC-201B-BXT Aluminum Case Power Supply- Antec 480w TrueBlue480 ATX-12V MX518 Mouse CPU- AMD Athlon 64 processor 4000+ (2.4GHz) Socket-939 Motherboard-K8N Neo2 Platinum 2 GB DDR (2 pcs 1GB) PC-3200 (400) OCZ Dual Channel Platinum Hard Drive- WD 74GB 8MB 10000rpm S-ATA WD740GD Sound Card- Creative SB Audigy 2 Zs Platinum CDRW- LG GCE-8525BI 52X32X52 CD-RW OS- Microsoft Windows XP Pro Edition w/SP2 Video-Radeon X850XT AGP 256MB

Jan 13, 2005, 11:38 PM	#33
Genius ID10T Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Midland, MI Posts: 146 Rep Power: 0	Well... he's logged into the forums so I guess that's a plus __________________ [color=White]Abit NF7-S v.2.0 1.5gb ram at 10-3-3-2.5 AMB Barton 2500+ @2215MHz (211x10.5) Dual WD800JB (Raid 0) / WD1600JB / WD800BB Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Logitech Z-680 5.1 speakers Radeon 9800 Pro Sony G420 19"[/color]

Jan 13, 2005, 11:46 PM	#36
Widkidone DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Diego, Ca Posts: 711 Rep Power: 0	Thank you Terry..... i was getting overly excited for them, LMAO!! __________________ Case- Cooler Master ATC-201B-BXT Aluminum Case Power Supply- Antec 480w TrueBlue480 ATX-12V MX518 Mouse CPU- AMD Athlon 64 processor 4000+ (2.4GHz) Socket-939 Motherboard-K8N Neo2 Platinum 2 GB DDR (2 pcs 1GB) PC-3200 (400) OCZ Dual Channel Platinum Hard Drive- WD 74GB 8MB 10000rpm S-ATA WD740GD Sound Card- Creative SB Audigy 2 Zs Platinum CDRW- LG GCE-8525BI 52X32X52 CD-RW OS- Microsoft Windows XP Pro Edition w/SP2 Video-Radeon X850XT AGP 256MB

Jan 14, 2005, 12:15 AM	#44
RaZ0r! DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	DVC is just a 'gee wiz' feature in my opinion. When I had an Nvidia card, I played with it and then always ended up just turning it off. Just makes all the colors look wrong. __________________ Intel Pentium4 3.2GHz/800MHz Hyper-Threading CPU Shuttle SB61G2R 20th Anniversary Special Edition XPC (Bios FB61RS0C, Intel 865G Chipset, Intel INF Utility 6.3.0.1007) ATI RADEON 9800XT (ATI Catalyst Driver 5.1 w/Control Panel) Kingston ValueRAM 512MB PC3200 DDR400 CAS2.5 (x2 for 1GB total) Western Digital WD1600JD Caviar SE 160GB Serial ATA Hard Disk Sony CRX300E Combo DVD-ROM/CD-RW Optical Drive Intergrated Realtek RTL8139 10/100Base-T Ethernet (Realtek Driver 6.20) Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS (Creative Driver 5.12.2.444) Klipsch ProMedia 4.1 Speakers (w/ Preamplifier Upgrade CP-1) Samsung SyncMaster 191T Digital LCD Display (19", DVI connection, Samsung Driver 1.0) Logitech Cordless MX Duo Wireless Keyboard & Mouse (Logitech iTouch 2.22 & MouseWare 9.79.1 build 25) MS Windows XP Home Edition SP2 (DirectX 9.0c)

Jan 14, 2005, 05:23 AM	#53
TJ- DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Infinity Posts: 3,679 Rep Power: 0	so any worrd on the new drivers...? __________________ new sig comming soon

Jan 13, 2005, 11:55 PM	#38
brandon105 DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 124 Rep Power: 0	You don't know what digitial vibrance is?...that=sad im afraid to say. ATI needs to quit releasing drivers that have no features or new implementations, so what your saying is that these drivers arent any different than the 4.12?...if not, why release them? And you seriusly need to think about putting digital vibrance in there.

Jan 13, 2005, 11:57 PM	#40
brandon105 DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 124 Rep Power: 0	pfffff

Jan 14, 2005, 01:05 AM	#49
brandon105 DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 124 Rep Power: 0	I think the x800 series already blow the 6800 outta the water.

Jan 14, 2005, 05:04 AM	#51
Rayder Mostly lurking lately.... Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 2,160 Rep Power: 71	On an ATI card, it will NOT be called Digital Vibrance. It will be called Color Radiance. The CCC will work for ALL Radeon cards in the 5.1's. There's your new feature.

Jan 14, 2005, 10:26 AM	#55
talhakhan DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Karachi, Pakistan Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	Hello i am new to this forum... well i hope that catalyst 5.1 will be faster and stable.. Thank GOD now i can also use CCC on my good old radeon 9200se... hope they'll release soon..may be tomorrow or may be next week.. __________________ DNA BETA TESTER ATI RADEON 9200SE AMD ATHLON XP 2000+ 512 MB DDR RAM MSI KM4M-L MOTHERBOARD

Jan 14, 2005, 04:42 PM	Thread Starter #58
UnTouchAble DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: S-O-T Posts: 342 Rep Power: 0	No performance increase or digi vib ? O'well

Jan 14, 2005, 09:59 PM	#59
pir8nyc DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 45 Rep Power: 0	Yeah, me colors look good, also performance is actually quite good (aside from the memory leak/aperture size/largesystemcache business). From what he said it seems that the improvement is in CCC, which I don't use anyway. Do wish that they get together with VIA to fix the 8X AGP bug. Other than that, I'll be happy to get the new drivers at least they are trying.

Jan 14, 2005, 10:21 PM	#60
multiblitz DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Will there be a driver which will incease video quality of the x800 and match the quality of the 6800 ? Please have a view on the moon example http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2305&p=6 I have many DVDs here where this shortcome of the x800 are clearly visible.