doubts about refresh rate

jasonbourne · Jan 25, 2005, 05:17 PM

is better to play games on 60 hz our 75?do i gain any kind of perfomance?

jasonbourne · Jan 25, 2005, 07:12 PM

can someone please show some interest?

**MIG-31** · Jan 25, 2005, 07:15 PM

75mhz........ it should be smoother and less strain on you're eyes.but go for 85mhz if you're monitor supports it.

jasonbourne · Jan 25, 2005, 07:22 PM

thanks for the reply, my monitor supports 85mhz,but i want u to understand that i want perfomance , i don't care much for my eyes .so should i set it to 60,75 or 85mhz?thanks alot mig-31

Vikingod · Jan 25, 2005, 07:24 PM

I think it depends on the person and the light they are in. Personally, I can't tell the difference between 60 and 100. Household and office lights typically refresh at a rate of 60mhz, so that can create problems with computer screen. Also, as far as I know, things are different whether your monitor is LCD or CRT.

**MIG-31** · Jan 25, 2005, 07:29 PM

Yes you want performance,i have mine set at 85 thats the max supported @ 1280 x 1024 pixels for my crt.if this is set at 60mhz then i see the refresh flicker and this strains my eyes..

so i agree with Vikingod's comment also.......my be a little trial run required for the different settings.but going over the max supported for the screen rez can do serious damage to a screen.should tell you the supported rez/refresh in youre monitors manual.

INSTG8R · Jan 25, 2005, 07:32 PM

Basically Refresh Rate=Max Framerates so if you use 85 you should get 85FPS max(with V-synch on of course) as for people who have V-synch off and go on about their 200FPS its a complete waste as I dont know of many monitors that can do that kinda refresh. I personally run mine at 1024x768@100Hz so I get 100FPS(yes I know, I like my Low Res)

Essence · Jan 25, 2005, 07:37 PM

I prefer 60Hz for games and 85Hz for desktop. That what I have it set as in my Control Panel.

~~Crash Override~~ · Jan 26, 2005, 02:32 AM

then in that case essence youre only seeing 60 frames per second

also you will cause yourself eyestrain

although your card may be drawing more than 60 frames per second your eye isnt seeing them at 60Hz.

The more Hz the more fluid the image on the screen appears at all times.

Also Hz on your monitor wont affect what your graphics card can do unless its vsynced in the drivers.

Judas · Jan 26, 2005, 02:52 AM

imo, here are the best Refresh rates if your using v-sync:

60/90/120/150

Divisables of 3

For some reason they just work better don't ask me why. I find 85 vs 90 quite different. I think i can pin it to it not being divisable.

But generally, higher the better. Thier is a point with v-sync that you are drawing more on your system for the video card causing it to actually produce worse results.. but it's rare.

What game do you plan on playing, resolution.. quality settings? why are you concerned for PURE preformance if you don't mind me asking?

Powercolour · Jan 26, 2005, 03:02 AM

whoa, mhz? i have yet 2 see any one with their monitor set higher than 100 hz, think about it, obviously your monitor is not going to refresh 85 million times per second, that is way beyond our technology...

Judas · Jan 26, 2005, 03:13 AM

lol.... no worries powercolour.... we knew what he/she ment...

although 85 million times per second refreshes would be the cats meow

Essence · Jan 26, 2005, 04:29 PM

Crash Override, I did forget to say that I do have VSync on. All my games have VSync on.

INSTG8R · Jan 26, 2005, 04:38 PM

Well Essence why are you choking that magnificent card at 60Hz? max your Refresh rates and let that card stretch its legs

jasonbourne · Jan 27, 2005, 11:56 AM

thanks guys ,i set my monitor's refresh rate to 85hz and everything runs smoother now.just changing the subject a bite .i bought today a nvidia 6800gt video card ,and i don't know what to do about my sweet ati radeon 9800xt.i'd sale it on ebay but i'm in brazil at the moment for the carnival!

Judas · Jan 27, 2005, 07:59 PM

9800xt is a good card and so is the 6800...... i'd buy it if i could afford it

Rogacz · Jan 27, 2005, 08:09 PM

I can see difference between 85 and 100 Hz if there are bright colors, and everything less than 85 Hz is unconfortable for me. 60 Hz can damage Your eyes badly (not on LCD though).

Vikingod · Jan 27, 2005, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rogacz

I can see difference between 85 and 100 Hz if there are bright colors, and everything less than 85 Hz is unconfortable for me. 60 Hz can damage Your eyes badly (not on LCD though).

I'm not so sure 60 can damage your eyes, just maybe make you motion sick if the lights around you refresh at the same rate.
Whatever is comfortable, thats what I say.

Judas · Jan 27, 2005, 10:36 PM

60hz is known for causing eyestrain which, longterm, can cause damage to the eyes.

anything that makes the blood vessel expand unnaturally in your eyeballs should be considered unsafe.....

Essence · Jan 28, 2005, 08:44 PM

If you've got a good monitor, then 60Hz (only for games) isn't bad. I use 60Hz for games, 85Hz for desktop, I don't get any flickering at 60Hz and I get no eye strain either

. Having VSync on will not result in image tearing when the framerate goes higher than your Refresh Rate

. Having it runed off is a bad idea in MY opinion.

Judas · Jan 28, 2005, 11:50 PM

erm, actually having your framerate go either below or above your refresh rate will produce tearing reguardless of what you do. IF you using a CRT, 60hz gives me a headache in under 15 minutes.

Rogacz · Jan 29, 2005, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judas

erm, actually having your framerate go either below or above your refresh rate will produce tearing reguardless of what you do. IF you using a CRT, 60hz gives me a headache in under 15 minutes.

Same here, 60Hz, and headache in under 15 mins.

Powercolour · Jan 30, 2005, 10:08 PM

if ur used 2 60 hz on a crt, u can game 4 hours (i used 2 do that)

Rogacz · Jan 30, 2005, 10:37 PM

It depends on Your organism, and eyes basicaly. Some people can take more, some less.

Judas · Jan 31, 2005, 12:57 AM

i used to game constantly on a 60hz or actually 48hz monitor.... i couldn't say i was sick at the time, but after moving to something better and feeling better, i couldn't STAND working on one again knowing the difference now....

CaptainAmerica · Jan 31, 2005, 02:05 PM

Flashing lights can bring up suppressed memories. This is a proven psychological practice. Use 60hz at your own risk.

Powercolour · Jan 31, 2005, 03:25 PM

yea, i remember my friend going like "what is wrong with ur monitor, my eyes hurt" and i would go like "huh"

Jan 25, 2005, 05:17 PM	#1
jasonbourne DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: great yarmouth uk Posts: 1,082 Rep Power: 0	doubts about refresh rate is better to play games on 60 hz our 75?do i gain any kind of perfomance? __________________ http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y28...asonBourne.jpg

Jan 25, 2005, 07:12 PM	Thread Starter #2
jasonbourne DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: great yarmouth uk Posts: 1,082 Rep Power: 0	can someone please show some interest? __________________ http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y28...asonBourne.jpg

Jan 25, 2005, 07:15 PM	#3
MIG-31 HardwareHeaven News Mod Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Nottingham,UK Posts: 56,865 Rep Power: 471 System Specs	75mhz........ it should be smoother and less strain on you're eyes.but go for 85mhz if you're monitor supports it. __________________ Please Post Your News Submissions Here

Jan 25, 2005, 07:22 PM	Thread Starter #4
jasonbourne DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: great yarmouth uk Posts: 1,082 Rep Power: 0	thanks for the reply, my monitor supports 85mhz,but i want u to understand that i want perfomance , i don't care much for my eyes .so should i set it to 60,75 or 85mhz?thanks alot mig-31 __________________ http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y28...asonBourne.jpg

Jan 25, 2005, 07:29 PM	#6
MIG-31 HardwareHeaven News Mod Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Nottingham,UK Posts: 56,865 Rep Power: 471 System Specs	Yes you want performance,i have mine set at 85 thats the max supported @ 1280 x 1024 pixels for my crt.if this is set at 60mhz then i see the refresh flicker and this strains my eyes.. so i agree with Vikingod's comment also.......my be a little trial run required for the different settings.but going over the max supported for the screen rez can do serious damage to a screen.should tell you the supported rez/refresh in youre monitors manual. __________________ Please Post Your News Submissions Here

Jan 25, 2005, 07:24 PM	#5
Vikingod Int'l Fish Liaison Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: By the light of lamp I sit and type... Posts: 16,197 Rep Power: 112 System Specs	I think it depends on the person and the light they are in. Personally, I can't tell the difference between 60 and 100. Household and office lights typically refresh at a rate of 60mhz, so that can create problems with computer screen. Also, as far as I know, things are different whether your monitor is LCD or CRT.

Jan 25, 2005, 07:32 PM	#7
INSTG8R DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canadian lost in Norway Posts: 527 Rep Power: 0	Basically Refresh Rate=Max Framerates so if you use 85 you should get 85FPS max(with V-synch on of course) as for people who have V-synch off and go on about their 200FPS its a complete waste as I dont know of many monitors that can do that kinda refresh. I personally run mine at 1024x768@100Hz so I get 100FPS(yes I know, I like my Low Res)

Jan 25, 2005, 07:37 PM	#8
Essence DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 78 Rep Power: 0	I prefer 60Hz for games and 85Hz for desktop. That what I have it set as in my Control Panel. __________________ [color=Red][color=White][color=White][/color][/color][/color][color=Red][color=RoyalBlue][color=White][color=DeepSkyBlue][color=White][color=DeepSkyBlue][color=White] [/color][/color][/color] [/color][/color][/color][/color]

Jan 26, 2005, 02:32 AM	#9
~~Crash Override~~ Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 2,448 Rep Power: 0	then in that case essence youre only seeing 60 frames per second also you will cause yourself eyestrain although your card may be drawing more than 60 frames per second your eye isnt seeing them at 60Hz. The more Hz the more fluid the image on the screen appears at all times. Also Hz on your monitor wont affect what your graphics card can do unless its vsynced in the drivers.

Jan 26, 2005, 03:02 AM	#11
Powercolour DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 411 Rep Power: 0	whoa, mhz? i have yet 2 see any one with their monitor set higher than 100 hz, think about it, obviously your monitor is not going to refresh 85 million times per second, that is way beyond our technology...

Jan 26, 2005, 04:29 PM	#13
Essence DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 78 Rep Power: 0	Crash Override, I did forget to say that I do have VSync on. All my games have VSync on. __________________ [color=Red][color=White][color=White][/color][/color][/color][color=Red][color=RoyalBlue][color=White][color=DeepSkyBlue][color=White][color=DeepSkyBlue][color=White] [/color][/color][/color] [/color][/color][/color][/color]

Jan 26, 2005, 04:38 PM	#14
INSTG8R DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canadian lost in Norway Posts: 527 Rep Power: 0	Well Essence why are you choking that magnificent card at 60Hz? max your Refresh rates and let that card stretch its legs

Jan 27, 2005, 11:56 AM	Thread Starter #15
jasonbourne DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: great yarmouth uk Posts: 1,082 Rep Power: 0	thanks guys ,i set my monitor's refresh rate to 85hz and everything runs smoother now.just changing the subject a bite .i bought today a nvidia 6800gt video card ,and i don't know what to do about my sweet ati radeon 9800xt.i'd sale it on ebay but i'm in brazil at the moment for the carnival! __________________ http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y28...asonBourne.jpg

Jan 27, 2005, 08:09 PM	#17
Rogacz Porcupine Floyd Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Poland Posts: 422 Rep Power: 0	I can see difference between 85 and 100 Hz if there are bright colors, and everything less than 85 Hz is unconfortable for me. 60 Hz can damage Your eyes badly (not on LCD though). __________________

Jan 28, 2005, 08:44 PM	#20
Essence DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 78 Rep Power: 0	If you've got a good monitor, then 60Hz (only for games) isn't bad. I use 60Hz for games, 85Hz for desktop, I don't get any flickering at 60Hz and I get no eye strain either. Having VSync on will not result in image tearing when the framerate goes higher than your Refresh Rate. Having it runed off is a bad idea in MY opinion. __________________ [color=Red][color=White][color=White][/color][/color][/color][color=Red][color=RoyalBlue][color=White][color=DeepSkyBlue][color=White][color=DeepSkyBlue][color=White] [/color][/color][/color] [/color][/color][/color][/color]

Jan 30, 2005, 10:08 PM	#23
Powercolour DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 411 Rep Power: 0	if ur used 2 60 hz on a crt, u can game 4 hours (i used 2 do that)

Jan 30, 2005, 10:37 PM	#24
Rogacz Porcupine Floyd Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Poland Posts: 422 Rep Power: 0	It depends on Your organism, and eyes basicaly. Some people can take more, some less. __________________

Jan 31, 2005, 02:05 PM	#26
CaptainAmerica DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Posts: 42 Rep Power: 0	Flashing lights can bring up suppressed memories. This is a proven psychological practice. Use 60hz at your own risk.

Jan 31, 2005, 03:25 PM	#27
Powercolour DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 411 Rep Power: 0	yea, i remember my friend going like "what is wrong with ur monitor, my eyes hurt" and i would go like "huh"