ATI's new driver download page

Azorus · Mar 4, 2005, 07:50 PM

So what does everyone think of the new ATI driver download page on ati.com?

sc3000 · Mar 4, 2005, 07:53 PM

I hate it, way to hard to find the drivers now

mkk · Mar 4, 2005, 08:08 PM

Should get better with some minor layout improvements, but on the whole I just didn't see any need to change out the old driver page. While they are obviously integrating everything into a knowledge database for a purpose, drivers itself could just as well exist outside that knowledgebase for quicker access.

If they keep the linkage structure one could simply bookmark the most needed page though, like for instance: http://support.ati.com/ics/support/K...p?folderID=301

Judas · Mar 4, 2005, 09:17 PM

it's not working at all for me atm....

IvanV · Mar 4, 2005, 09:27 PM

It would be OK, except the tree doesn't work in Firefox 1.01: all the branches are open, and clicking on the minus sign doesn't close them.

crlorentzen · Mar 4, 2005, 09:41 PM

Terrible...I was able to find the previous driver sets faster than the latest set.

plus It does not render properly in Gecko based browsers...the menu that is.

W3C Validation Failed
26 errors.

The old way was better.

ZapWizard · Mar 4, 2005, 09:51 PM

Running firefox, it looks like it's a few generations too old.

The original interface was very easy to use, and I could open it even if running at 640x480 (Trying to get drivers)

I noticed a SIGN-IN, mabye it can customize based on the products you own?

Vikingod · Mar 4, 2005, 09:56 PM

I dodn't have any trouble getting to it. I though it was faster than doing the other method. i am using firefox 1.0.1. A few tweaks, and it will be fine. (not that big a deal to me, I don't even use it that much.

Spyre · Mar 4, 2005, 10:54 PM

I'm not impressed, needs more work to be friendly

nitrousoxide52 · Mar 4, 2005, 11:08 PM

I like the old page better, it was alot easier to navigate

Chaos · Mar 5, 2005, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrousoxide52

I like the old page better, it was alot easier to navigate

my feelings exactly

nitrousoxide52 · Mar 5, 2005, 12:14 AM

Although, it does make it easier to access older versions of the catalyst drivers.

Ev!L-aLphA · Mar 5, 2005, 12:39 AM

yea i dont really like it that much :-/ looks a lot more complicated too for ppl that dont know a lot about pc's

nitrousoxide52 · Mar 5, 2005, 12:48 AM

It's not even that though, its just they do such a great job of making it a pain to get the drivers at all (I.E. hard to find tabs and buttons)

Spyre · Mar 5, 2005, 02:35 AM

You get a gold star if you can successfully report a driver bug using the new feedback form, as its impossible

jscodner · Mar 6, 2005, 03:09 PM

Yeah, 5 clicks to get to where 1 got one before. 6 to actually get to the drivers. not intuitive at all for drivers. it is better for screen readers, tho. As for the KB it's high time it has been consolidated. A serious look at updating the articles needs to be done, and eliminating old/outdated advice. It's a little disconcerting to have to wade through 5 year old articles that keep saying "ATI Engineering has been advised of the issue and is investigating." The timeout stinks, too, not much TroubleShooting time there. It's good to see a MyATI type setup back, tho.

Zardon · Mar 6, 2005, 03:27 PM

It is absolutely incredible that this passed quality control, that is the worst download page ive ever seen. terrible use of frames, poor design and a total mess of a layout.

bake15 · Mar 6, 2005, 04:10 PM

lol it is a bit confusing

DH Geeks · Mar 6, 2005, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zardon

It is absolutely incredible that this passed quality control, that is the worst download page ive ever seen. terrible use of frames, poor design and a total mess of a layout.

You may want to tell Terry about this.

Would you be able to ask him that why they changed the download page like that? Any reason behind?

Zardon · Mar 6, 2005, 04:39 PM

ive already emailed them, but not Terry, thats not his department.

davez0r · Mar 6, 2005, 10:09 PM

heh...one word to describe it? atrocious. I mean, I'm fairly satisfied with alot of simple things (hell...I thought CATALYST 5.1 was dandy) but holy christmas...what the heck is that? looks like something my nephew chalked up in a grammar school HTML class.

I have to admit though, originally when I saw the "new page" I thought it was a problem with my IE or FireFox or that perhaps the site link to Drivers/Downloads was borked. It really does not make sense - the old site was sa little slow on the loading but what they replaced it with only looks good in lynx or some interface-less browser

Spyre · Mar 6, 2005, 10:46 PM

OK we figured out that if you want to report a driver bug you have to register your card as the options arent there if you dont (I dont think they even tested it)

You are lucky if your card is even on the list to register as they arent all there (no club3D cards for example)

The timeout thing is totally lame and needs to be removed too

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Mar 6, 2005, 11:30 PM

old page was better, but i got to the drivers faster actually this time. but if you were looking for other products it would be a bitch.

they copied nvidia's style before

terror_adagio · Mar 7, 2005, 12:48 AM

I cannot believe this is what they are using now. What idiot made this up?

Rayder · Mar 7, 2005, 01:44 AM

I don't see why they changed it, it was fine before. Whatever.....

Son_of_Thunder · Mar 7, 2005, 02:15 AM

i also do not like it as well.

Spike1977 · Mar 7, 2005, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zardon

It is absolutely incredible that this passed quality control, that is the worst download page ive ever seen. terrible use of frames, poor design and a total mess of a layout.

Oh my god, what have they done!

I have not got to explain to my father how to get through this bs and he found it hard to find the drivers before with just one click

Someone should pay for this cock-up and shown the door for their troubles

How the hell am I gonna get through this with my father

Bring back the old way please for the love of god

Spike1977

KiRiON · Mar 7, 2005, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Son_of_Thunder

i also do not like it as well.

me too!

Zardon · Mar 7, 2005, 12:22 PM

I had a conversation with ATI about this over the weekend and explained the problems, comments id received, so they are aware of this. So we shall see if anything changes over the coming weeks/months.

BWX · Mar 7, 2005, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azorus

So what does everyone think of the new ATI driver download page on ati.com?

It sucks hard, just like the CCC, and in the same way. (don't flame me- just my own personal opinion of course. Which is worth about 2 cents : ) )

Mar 4, 2005, 07:50 PM	#1
Azorus DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	ATI's new driver download page So what does everyone think of the new ATI driver download page on ati.com?

Mar 4, 2005, 09:41 PM	#6
crlorentzen DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 1,201 Rep Power: 0	Terrible...I was able to find the previous driver sets faster than the latest set. plus It does not render properly in Gecko based browsers...the menu that is. W3C Validation Failed 26 errors. The old way was better. __________________

Mar 4, 2005, 09:51 PM	#7
ZapWizard DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	Running firefox, it looks like it's a few generations too old. The original interface was very easy to use, and I could open it even if running at 640x480 (Trying to get drivers) I noticed a SIGN-IN, mabye it can customize based on the products you own? __________________ www.ZapWizard.com

Mar 4, 2005, 10:54 PM	#9
Spyre DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: England Posts: 240 Rep Power: 62	I'm not impressed, needs more work to be friendly __________________ ATI Beta Tester game.AMD.Moderator

Mar 4, 2005, 11:08 PM	#10
nitrousoxide52 Driverheaven.com err .net Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,719 Rep Power: 0	I like the old page better, it was alot easier to navigate __________________ AMD Athlon64 X2 3800+ XFX Geforce 7800GT ABIT AN8-SLI BFG Tech 650w

Mar 4, 2005, 07:53 PM	#2
sc3000 DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New York Posts: 225 Rep Power: 0	I hate it, way to hard to find the drivers now

Mar 4, 2005, 08:08 PM	#3
mkk Cthulhu/Dagon 2012 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Gefle, Sweden Posts: 4,495 Rep Power: 132 System Specs	Should get better with some minor layout improvements, but on the whole I just didn't see any need to change out the old driver page. While they are obviously integrating everything into a knowledge database for a purpose, drivers itself could just as well exist outside that knowledgebase for quicker access. If they keep the linkage structure one could simply bookmark the most needed page though, like for instance: http://support.ati.com/ics/support/K...p?folderID=301

Mar 4, 2005, 09:27 PM	#5
IvanV HH Assassin Guild Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,921 Rep Power: 336 System Specs	It would be OK, except the tree doesn't work in Firefox 1.01: all the branches are open, and clicking on the minus sign doesn't close them.

Mar 4, 2005, 09:56 PM	#8
Vikingod Int'l Fish Liaison Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: By the light of lamp I sit and type... Posts: 16,197 Rep Power: 112 System Specs	I dodn't have any trouble getting to it. I though it was faster than doing the other method. i am using firefox 1.0.1. A few tweaks, and it will be fine. (not that big a deal to me, I don't even use it that much.

Mar 5, 2005, 12:14 AM	#12
nitrousoxide52 Driverheaven.com err .net Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,719 Rep Power: 0	Although, it does make it easier to access older versions of the catalyst drivers. __________________ AMD Athlon64 X2 3800+ XFX Geforce 7800GT ABIT AN8-SLI BFG Tech 650w

Mar 5, 2005, 12:39 AM	#13
Ev!L-aLphA \| n f e c t e D Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: California Posts: 4,111 Rep Power: 0	yea i dont really like it that much :-/ looks a lot more complicated too for ppl that dont know a lot about pc's __________________ R.I.P 8/8/04 4/21/08

Mar 5, 2005, 12:48 AM	#14
nitrousoxide52 Driverheaven.com err .net Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,719 Rep Power: 0	It's not even that though, its just they do such a great job of making it a pain to get the drivers at all (I.E. hard to find tabs and buttons) __________________ AMD Athlon64 X2 3800+ XFX Geforce 7800GT ABIT AN8-SLI BFG Tech 650w

Mar 5, 2005, 02:35 AM	#15
Spyre DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: England Posts: 240 Rep Power: 62	You get a gold star if you can successfully report a driver bug using the new feedback form, as its impossible __________________ ATI Beta Tester game.AMD.Moderator

Mar 6, 2005, 03:09 PM	#16
jscodner DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 25 Rep Power: 0	Yeah, 5 clicks to get to where 1 got one before. 6 to actually get to the drivers. not intuitive at all for drivers. it is better for screen readers, tho. As for the KB it's high time it has been consolidated. A serious look at updating the articles needs to be done, and eliminating old/outdated advice. It's a little disconcerting to have to wade through 5 year old articles that keep saying "ATI Engineering has been advised of the issue and is investigating." The timeout stinks, too, not much TroubleShooting time there. It's good to see a MyATI type setup back, tho. __________________ Through the Harmony and Peace of Love and Unity, John

Mar 6, 2005, 03:27 PM	#17
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	It is absolutely incredible that this passed quality control, that is the worst download page ive ever seen. terrible use of frames, poor design and a total mess of a layout.

Mar 6, 2005, 04:10 PM	#18
bake15 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wigan,UK Posts: 582 Rep Power: 0	lol it is a bit confusing

Mar 6, 2005, 04:39 PM	#20
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	ive already emailed them, but not Terry, thats not his department.

Mar 6, 2005, 10:09 PM	#21
davez0r DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	heh...one word to describe it? atrocious. I mean, I'm fairly satisfied with alot of simple things (hell...I thought CATALYST 5.1 was dandy) but holy christmas...what the heck is that? looks like something my nephew chalked up in a grammar school HTML class. I have to admit though, originally when I saw the "new page" I thought it was a problem with my IE or FireFox or that perhaps the site link to Drivers/Downloads was borked. It really does not make sense - the old site was sa little slow on the loading but what they replaced it with only looks good in lynx or some interface-less browser

Mar 6, 2005, 10:46 PM	#22
Spyre DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: England Posts: 240 Rep Power: 62	OK we figured out that if you want to report a driver bug you have to register your card as the options arent there if you dont (I dont think they even tested it) You are lucky if your card is even on the list to register as they arent all there (no club3D cards for example) The timeout thing is totally lame and needs to be removed too __________________ ATI Beta Tester game.AMD.Moderator

Mar 6, 2005, 11:30 PM	#23
BiGBrOwNPimpsta HH's #1 Hustla and Pimp Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Dirty Dot Posts: 7,717 Rep Power: 107 System Specs	old page was better, but i got to the drivers faster actually this time. but if you were looking for other products it would be a bitch. they copied nvidia's style before __________________ Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music \| Logitech Z-5500 THX 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers \| 2 Lite-On 20x S-ATA Burners \| Logitech G700 Mouse \| Logitech MX5500 Bluetooth Keyboard

Mar 7, 2005, 12:48 AM	#24
terror_adagio DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 42 Rep Power: 0	I cannot believe this is what they are using now. What idiot made this up?

Mar 7, 2005, 01:44 AM	#25
Rayder Mostly lurking lately.... Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 2,161 Rep Power: 73	I don't see why they changed it, it was fine before. Whatever.....

Mar 7, 2005, 02:15 AM	#26
Son_of_Thunder HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 1,441 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	i also do not like it as well. __________________

Mar 7, 2005, 12:22 PM	#29
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	I had a conversation with ATI about this over the weekend and explained the problems, comments id received, so they are aware of this. So we shall see if anything changes over the coming weeks/months.