Ati Radeon Stereo Driver

steve79 · Mar 24, 2005, 11:52 AM

Hi. I am looking for ati stereo driver which supports anaglyphs (3D glasses with one red and one cyan/blue glass) in directx and opengl games. I don't even know if it exists.I hope it does exist.Anaglyph glasses (especially anachromes) can make really good 3D illusion with non-spoiled colors (red/green anaglyphs are far worse for color gfx). Nvidia has released stereo driver (which also supports anaglyphs) long time ago. I hope there is such a driver for ati cards. Please help me to find it.

JimmyT · Mar 24, 2005, 03:58 PM

I don't think ATI ever made stereo drivers, but if you find one, tell us.

CATALYST Maker, could you implement anachromic stereo drivers, or is it something ATI would never do?

Gnerma · Mar 24, 2005, 07:58 PM

This is something a very vocal minority has been clamoring for from ATi's drivers for years. The long and short of it is the market segment wanting this is far too small for it to be worth ATi's efforts. If you want to play games in such a way, you'll just have to use Nvidia.

EDIT - Of course it would be rude of me not to post something to backup the above (thread).

JimmyT · Mar 25, 2005, 12:09 PM

Well, the reason 3D glasses failed in the 1st place, was that they were based on shutter glasses. The monitor had to be set to 60Hz refresh rate, meaning that each eye would see 30Hz refresh. This was very painfull for the eyes. I bought the glasses (£20 used) and tried them for 10 minutes only. They were horrible.

Anachromic glasses work on a different way. The 2 images are displayed on the same frame, so if you play a game @85Hz, each eye will get the same refresh, 85Hz and not half of it.

I've watched Shrek 3D and Spy Kids 3D. (Both titles available on DVD, and they include 4 pairs of glasses for the whole family to watch). It creates the effect of 3D, you can see colors (based on a technique they use when making the 3D version of the movie), the glasses are VERY cheap (like £1) and the main disadvantage is the darkening of colors , and of course the ghosting if the anachromic colors of your screen don't match exactly the colors of your glasses.

3D imaging is not on the Top50 requested features? What are the requested features? OpenGL 2.0 support is here, DirectX9.0c is here, almost all technical features are here, what else could there be in the Top50 list? Game fixes? That's short term requests.

Could we have a look to the Top50 requested features list? That could give us a hint for the features ATI is trying to give to the customers.

I'm not trying to be disrespectful to ATI's opinion and priorities. I'm totally pleased with ATI hardware, software and support, and I don't "really need 3D or else...". It's just that some things have to be heard, and 3D support would be nice (for VRML rendered objects, 3D Studio Max, Autocad renderings and Games)

steve79 · Mar 29, 2005, 05:59 PM

Gnerma, I don't think the segment is too small. 3D is the future. Look for example at 3D monitors, or tv, passive projection and nvidia know that. They made stereo driver long time ago and many users take advantage of it. Jimmy T I know anaglyphs glasses causes color darkening, but 3D effect is still outstanding. I am also pleased with ati's software, but they should correct their mistake very quickly. Many people don't even know there is such a possibility. Maybe that's why they don't need it. Once you see it there is no way back

If you find sth about it please let me know.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Mar 29, 2005, 06:56 PM

There are no ATI stereo drivers / drivers for 3d glases

there are hower 3d glases that work with only DirectX that work on ATI an nvidia cards. Can't tell you who but I've seen them demenstrated /sold at the computer shows before..

But nv has some seprate support on thier end... I've never been interested in such glases primarly becouse they don't work with my eye glases

Rayder · Mar 29, 2005, 07:06 PM

Sometimes I wonder if it's just that ATI won't make stereo drivers, or can't. I see no reason why they would purposely leave this feature out od the drivers. The, "not enough people need it" excuse doesn't wash with me.

Unfrotunately, I'm one of those poeple that couldn't possibly use it as I'm blind in my right eye. But I'm still strongly in favor of ATI supporting this feature, if they can.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Mar 29, 2005, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rayder

Sometimes I wonder if it's just that ATI won't make stereo drivers, or can't. I see no reason why they would purposely leave this feature out od the drivers. The, "not enough people need it" excuse doesn't wash with me.

Unfrotunately, I'm one of those poeple that couldn't possibly use it as I'm blind in my right eye. But I'm still strongly in favor of ATI supporting this feature, if they can.

Not alot of demand for it... even on nvidia cards... only time it was ever popular was when it first started showing up and companies like asus etc were shipping thier cards withthe 3d glasses and all that... THAT 3D GLASES JUST NEEDED TO BE PLUGED INTO THE VIDEO CARD

but you might look around the unit i saw working on any direct3d (direct X) complant video card & game... it HAS A BOX YOUR MONITOR CABLE HOOKS TO AND THEN THE BOX HOOKS TO YOUR pc and also to your 3d glasses they run about $60 to $100

only ever seen them sold at computer shows all over the US , not ever sure if thier still in bussiness as they were not selling verry well....

"The, "not enough people need it" excuse doesn't wash with me." to go threw all the carp odf adding support for something that has never took off and been out for years and years and years = a big $$$ loss for the companey that why they've never botherd

I'm sure if you can get several hundred million people to swaer to buy the glasses etc they might take you up on it... But there not much money in it never been popular... there for companies really don't care...

JimmyT · Mar 29, 2005, 11:40 PM

You are right about one thing. It's a software feature, so Microsoft could implement it in the next DirectX. We don't need implementation by ATI or nVidia. And I don't need the $60-$100 shutter glasses, I had a pair as I said earlier, and it hurts the eyes.
All we need is an implementation on DirectX, and the $5 cyan/red glasses. (In fact it's an excellent MSc Project for Computer Science students).
Also a game engine could provide its own 3d implementation, eliminating the need for new DirectX or OpenGL.

steve79 · Mar 30, 2005, 01:15 AM

Hey, I have found something which may be useful. After hours of searching on web I have found winx3d application, where you can choose what kind of glasses you use (included anaglyphs). I have read, it should work with vrcaddyxp. I have tried many times to launch hl2, or far cry with the software enabled, but both games looked exactly the same like in 2D mode; there was not any difference at all. Maybe you know some useful stuff about it, and we all could make it work...

dicsolovag · Aug 13, 2009, 10:28 AM

Hi

I found this program, and go well with my ati X700 with both directX and openGL.

iZ3D Driver List

good luck

Mar 24, 2005, 11:52 AM	#1
steve79 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	Ati Radeon Stereo Driver Hi. I am looking for ati stereo driver which supports anaglyphs (3D glasses with one red and one cyan/blue glass) in directx and opengl games. I don't even know if it exists.I hope it does exist.Anaglyph glasses (especially anachromes) can make really good 3D illusion with non-spoiled colors (red/green anaglyphs are far worse for color gfx). Nvidia has released stereo driver (which also supports anaglyphs) long time ago. I hope there is such a driver for ati cards. Please help me to find it.

Mar 24, 2005, 07:58 PM	#3
Gnerma Avatar limits = SPAM Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: California Posts: 101 Rep Power: 0	This is something a very vocal minority has been clamoring for from ATi's drivers for years. The long and short of it is the market segment wanting this is far too small for it to be worth ATi's efforts. If you want to play games in such a way, you'll just have to use Nvidia. EDIT - Of course it would be rude of me not to post something to backup the above (thread). __________________ I disable sigs at Driver Heaven. Why? Because your huge ugly sig image irritates me Last edited by Gnerma; Mar 24, 2005 at 08:10 PM.

Mar 29, 2005, 06:56 PM	#6
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	There are no ATI stereo drivers / drivers for 3d glases there are hower 3d glases that work with only DirectX that work on ATI an nvidia cards. Can't tell you who but I've seen them demenstrated /sold at the computer shows before.. But nv has some seprate support on thier end... I've never been interested in such glases primarly becouse they don't work with my eye glases __________________

Aug 13, 2009, 10:28 AM	#11
dicsolovag DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Re: Ati Radeon Stereo Driver Hi I found this program, and go well with my ati X700 with both directX and openGL. iZ3D Driver List good luck

Mar 24, 2005, 03:58 PM	#2
JimmyT DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 44 Rep Power: 0	I don't think ATI ever made stereo drivers, but if you find one, tell us. CATALYST Maker, could you implement anachromic stereo drivers, or is it something ATI would never do?

Mar 25, 2005, 12:09 PM	#4
JimmyT DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 44 Rep Power: 0	Well, the reason 3D glasses failed in the 1st place, was that they were based on shutter glasses. The monitor had to be set to 60Hz refresh rate, meaning that each eye would see 30Hz refresh. This was very painfull for the eyes. I bought the glasses (£20 used) and tried them for 10 minutes only. They were horrible. Anachromic glasses work on a different way. The 2 images are displayed on the same frame, so if you play a game @85Hz, each eye will get the same refresh, 85Hz and not half of it. I've watched Shrek 3D and Spy Kids 3D. (Both titles available on DVD, and they include 4 pairs of glasses for the whole family to watch). It creates the effect of 3D, you can see colors (based on a technique they use when making the 3D version of the movie), the glasses are VERY cheap (like £1) and the main disadvantage is the darkening of colors , and of course the ghosting if the anachromic colors of your screen don't match exactly the colors of your glasses. 3D imaging is not on the Top50 requested features? What are the requested features? OpenGL 2.0 support is here, DirectX9.0c is here, almost all technical features are here, what else could there be in the Top50 list? Game fixes? That's short term requests. Could we have a look to the Top50 requested features list? That could give us a hint for the features ATI is trying to give to the customers. I'm not trying to be disrespectful to ATI's opinion and priorities. I'm totally pleased with ATI hardware, software and support, and I don't "really need 3D or else...". It's just that some things have to be heard, and 3D support would be nice (for VRML rendered objects, 3D Studio Max, Autocad renderings and Games)

Mar 29, 2005, 05:59 PM	Thread Starter #5
steve79 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	Gnerma, I don't think the segment is too small. 3D is the future. Look for example at 3D monitors, or tv, passive projection and nvidia know that. They made stereo driver long time ago and many users take advantage of it. Jimmy T I know anaglyphs glasses causes color darkening, but 3D effect is still outstanding. I am also pleased with ati's software, but they should correct their mistake very quickly. Many people don't even know there is such a possibility. Maybe that's why they don't need it. Once you see it there is no way back If you find sth about it please let me know.

Mar 29, 2005, 07:06 PM	#7
Rayder Mostly lurking lately.... Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 2,160 Rep Power: 71	Sometimes I wonder if it's just that ATI won't make stereo drivers, or can't. I see no reason why they would purposely leave this feature out od the drivers. The, "not enough people need it" excuse doesn't wash with me. Unfrotunately, I'm one of those poeple that couldn't possibly use it as I'm blind in my right eye. But I'm still strongly in favor of ATI supporting this feature, if they can.

Mar 29, 2005, 11:40 PM	#9
JimmyT DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 44 Rep Power: 0	You are right about one thing. It's a software feature, so Microsoft could implement it in the next DirectX. We don't need implementation by ATI or nVidia. And I don't need the $60-$100 shutter glasses, I had a pair as I said earlier, and it hurts the eyes. All we need is an implementation on DirectX, and the $5 cyan/red glasses. (In fact it's an excellent MSc Project for Computer Science students). Also a game engine could provide its own 3d implementation, eliminating the need for new DirectX or OpenGL.

Mar 30, 2005, 01:15 AM	Thread Starter #10
steve79 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	Hey, I have found something which may be useful. After hours of searching on web I have found winx3d application, where you can choose what kind of glasses you use (included anaglyphs). I have read, it should work with vrcaddyxp. I have tried many times to launch hl2, or far cry with the software enabled, but both games looked exactly the same like in 2D mode; there was not any difference at all. Maybe you know some useful stuff about it, and we all could make it work...