Probem with X700 and Omega 2.6.05a

Majin GeoDooD · Mar 31, 2005, 12:13 AM

Hey all, I recently overhauled my PC (Athlon 64 and PCI Express - X700 Pro), but something seems a bit odd with my Omega Drivers.

I installed the 4.12 based Omegas, and I noticed a problem in the control panel: I couldn't see the OGL/DX options, and RadLinker didn't show my clock speeds. I've never had any problems with Omega, either

.

Am I missing something, or is there something I'm not aware of?

@Husky · Mar 31, 2005, 12:36 AM

Are you sure these are based on 4.12? I have them and the drivers number is 2.5.97a. Yours have a 2.6.05a label, I think these are the 5.1... And I notice that you are missing some tabs, like Smartgart(tm) and subtabs 3D, Options, Color in Advance 3D...

Maybe Smartgart service didnt initialize. Here's what to do, copyed and pasted from Omega F.A.Q.:

1. The SmartGart service did not initialize.
2. SmartGart disabled AGP support because it found a problem.

For case 1, make sure the "SmartGart" service is enabled and set to Automatic, also try starting the service manually, then restart your PC.

For case 2, make sure you have the latest motherboard AGP chipset drivers installed; they can usually be found at the motherboard’s manufacturer page or you can get them directly from the chipset supplier, like Intel, VIA, NVIDIA, etc.

Go in Start (bottom left), then Run. Type in Smartgart. Are the settings on? I'm not sure how it should be with PCI Express, as I have an AGP card, but the settings should all be ''On''

If you are lost, just re-install the damned drivers!

Also, what is CTX 2085?

Majin GeoDooD · Mar 31, 2005, 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by @Husky

Are you sure these are based on 4.12? I have them and the drivers number is 2.5.97a. Yours have a 2.6.05a label, I think these are the 5.1... And I notice that you are missing some tabs, like Smartgart(tm) and subtabs 3D, Options, Color in Advance 3D...

Oops, forgot to mention. Initially I installed the 2.5.97a's, then I decided to try the 2.6.05a's, and those are what are currently installed.

I'll try the other things you mentioned.

Btw, CTX 2085 is my monitor.

*edit*

I tried to start the SmartGART service, and came upon this.

Not sure what could cause that. All my motherboard drivers are installed, but I'll check nVidia's site to see if there are any new versions.

ChoGGi · Mar 31, 2005, 01:11 AM

it might give you more information about the error in event viewer (start>run>type in eventvwr.msc)

edit: it might be easier to clear the logs out, run smartgart and then check the logs

Majin GeoDooD · Mar 31, 2005, 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChoGGi

it might give you more information about the error in event viewer (start>run>type in eventvwr.msc)

edit: it might be easier to clear the logs out, run smartgart and then check the logs

Well this is odd. The Event Viewer tells me the service was started, even though it still "errored"

*edit*

Btw, this is not affecting the performance of the card at all.

3dmark01: 17,914
3dmark03: 6,855
3dmark05: 2,930

Unless those are considered low for an X700

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Also, ATI Tray Tools can see and change the clock speeds just fine, it's definitely an issue with the SmartGART.

@Husky · Mar 31, 2005, 01:37 AM

There is a good Catalyst guide a www.tweakguides.com and here is what the autor says if SmartGART isnt fonctioning properly :
However, if they won't remain On, then typically you will need to install/re-install the latest Motherboard AGP drivers, and also check and change your BIOS settings as covered in the relevant sections of this guide above. You can also try re-enabling the 'ATI Smart' service if you disabled it previously.

You should read the guide to access to all information possible as I don't want to copy/paste the whole guide ;P

Majin GeoDooD · Mar 31, 2005, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by @Husky

There is a good Catalyst guide a www.tweakguides.com and here is what the autor says if SmartGART isnt fonctioning properly :
However, if they won't remain On, then typically you will need to install/re-install the latest Motherboard AGP drivers, and also check and change your BIOS settings as covered in the relevant sections of this guide above. You can also try re-enabling the 'ATI Smart' service if you disabled it previously.

You should read the guide to access to all information possible as I don't want to copy/paste the whole guide ;P

Of course most of those don't apply to me since I have PCI Express, everything there is for AGP.

*edit*

I can use ATI Tray Tools to edit everything, but I'd really rather not have that process open, I feel much more comfortable just using RadLinker.

mohair27 · Mar 31, 2005, 03:39 AM

I have the same problem. Noboody has been able to figure it out yet. I don't have any of the tabs you have, just Advanced 3D and it shows nothing. I also have a PCI Express card, maybe there is some issue with PCI-E.

ChoGGi · Mar 31, 2005, 03:47 AM

heres a link to the latest nforce4 chipset drivers
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/suppor...CK804_NV11.zip

plank · Mar 31, 2005, 08:30 PM

Having the same problem as well, latest motherboard drivers installed (asus p5gd1 vm/s).

This is actually the first time I've used the omega drivers but I have followed the readme and the suggestions in this thread. Although, I do have the PCI-E version as well so AGP settings shouldn't be hindering me.

Thanks for any help.

Majin GeoDooD · Mar 31, 2005, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChoGGi

heres a link to the latest nforce4 chipset drivers
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/suppor...CK804_NV11.zip

Thanks for the drivers, but they didn't help.

Another person having the same problem leads me to believe it's either an ATI driver problem, or an nForce driver problem.

blade5545 · Mar 31, 2005, 09:40 PM

ok, help is on the way very few people have the x700 and i actually own one, the only two overclocking tools which work for it are the ATI TOOL and its one of the betas and ATI Tray, omega drivers wont work the oc utility is based on radlinker and none of the revision even detect the x700. ATI Tray is great beacause it also enables the tempature sensor on the x700 pro. I dont know why none of the offical ati drivers show the tempature on this card but the temp sensor is there and working but only the ati tray tool reads it and displays the temp. This has nothing to do with nforce or ati this is due to the fact that there are very few x700 cards out there, the reason I have one is beacuse I got a huge ati employee discount but i dont work for ati but i work for somebody which is big cust of ati to get that discount .

Majin GeoDooD · Mar 31, 2005, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blade5545

This has nothing to do with nforce or ati this is due to the fact that there are very few x700 cards out there, the reason I have one is beacuse I got a huge ati employee discount but i dont work for ati but i work for somebody which is big cust of ati to get that discount .

So what exactly do you say the problem is? You say it's not ATi or nVidia's fault, is it Omega's fault? Does he just need to add better support for the X700 in his drivers?

blade5545 · Mar 31, 2005, 11:44 PM

Answers to your questions.
Its none of their fault, like I said before the overclocking utility built in to omega drivers are actually called radlinker and its not made by omega its made by chris.w, the person that needs to add support is actually chris.w beacuse he is the one which makes radlinker which is then included in to omega drivers, but look for other pieces of software that I listed ati tool or ati tray they will both let you overclock the x700 card.

Majin GeoDooD · Apr 1, 2005, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blade5545

Answers to your questions.
Its none of their fault, like I said before the overclocking utility built in to omega drivers are actually called radlinker and its not made by omega its made by chris.w, the person that needs to add support is actually chris.w beacuse he is the one which makes radlinker which is then included in to omega drivers, but look for other pieces of software that I listed ati tool or ati tray they will both let you overclock the x700 card.

Ahh, Radlinker's fault, gotcha. That makes sense. Hopefully a new version will fix that, I wonder if he's aware of the issue.

EvaUnitXIV · Apr 1, 2005, 01:21 AM

go back to 4.12 omega. maybe you got the bugged 5.1 omegas

@Husky · Apr 1, 2005, 01:33 AM

So Radlinker makes the SmartGART tab missing? And the other options in Advanced 3D?

ChoGGi · Apr 1, 2005, 01:49 AM

not the smartgart tab (i think that depends on you having AGP or PCIe). the advanced 3d tab is part of radlinker, no radlinker no advanced 3d tab.

Majin GeoDooD · Apr 1, 2005, 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvaUnitXIV

go back to 4.12 omega. maybe you got the bugged 5.1 omegas

I went back to the 4.12s after realizing it wasn't a specific driver problem, screw the 5.1s :P.

plank · Apr 1, 2005, 03:11 AM

What about the issue with the 3d tab missing? Makes it difficult to change anti-ailiasing and all that good stuff.

ChoGGi · Apr 1, 2005, 03:19 AM

try reinstalling radlinker that usually does it

edit: oops im stoned, reinstalling proably wont work

pigdog · Apr 4, 2005, 09:52 AM

I've got the same problem, and have had it since upgrading my rig to PCIe (and the rest you can see below). I get the same problem with the 4.12's, 5.1's and now the 5.2's (All Omega's - in other words Radlinker). Despite this, the drivers are great - just really would like my 3D tab.

Not to mention a bit of OC'ing godness.

Would be nice to hear from you Chris

.

ChoGGi · Apr 4, 2005, 10:41 AM

it isnt radlinker but ati tool allows you to (auto) over clock when games are running and underclock when your done

Atragon · Apr 4, 2005, 11:50 AM

I'm experiencing the same problem here, only with a X800XL, fresh install on WinXP Pro /w SP1...

Installed DX9c
Reboot
Installed nForce chipset drivers
Reboot
Installed Omega 5.2s
Reboot
Installed ATITool .24 Beta 6?

Result: The Advanced 3D tab only has Clock Rate and About tabs under it.
Note, the clock rate detects at 0/0, if you check and then uncheck enable clockrate change, it detects at 339/326. (ATI tool shows it as 400/490).

System:
A64 3000+ Winchester
DFI NF4 Ultra-D
2x512MB KHX3200
MSI RX800XL-VT2D256E
Seagate ST830817AS
Seasonic S12-430W Power supply.

I suspect it has something to do with PCI-E vs AGP...

Orochimaru92 · Apr 4, 2005, 01:15 PM

Me too, i suspect it has something to do with PCI-E.

AirJarhead · Apr 24, 2005, 07:35 AM

Has anyone contacted ChrisW about this? I like using Radlinker MUCH better than ATI Traytools.

Majin GeoDooD · Apr 24, 2005, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AirJarhead

Has anyone contacted ChrisW about this? I like using Radlinker MUCH better than ATI Traytools.

Yes, he replied in another thread saying he's working on the solution.

AirJarhead · Apr 24, 2005, 07:46 PM

Found it, Thanks!

Mar 31, 2005, 12:13 AM	#1
Majin GeoDooD HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Woodbridge, VA Posts: 1,117 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Probem with X700 and Omega 2.6.05a Hey all, I recently overhauled my PC (Athlon 64 and PCI Express - X700 Pro), but something seems a bit odd with my Omega Drivers. I installed the 4.12 based Omegas, and I noticed a problem in the control panel: I couldn't see the OGL/DX options, and RadLinker didn't show my clock speeds. I've never had any problems with Omega, either . Am I missing something, or is there something I'm not aware of? __________________ Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) ~Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3.55GHz~ Gigabyte P35-DS3L ~ eVGA GeForce 8800GT 512MB @ 690/1000 ~ OCZ Titanium 2x2GB ~ Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 750 GB ~ WD Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB ~ NEC ND-3540A DVD-RW ~ Rosewill RP600V2 600w PSU ~ Antec Nine Hundred Mid-Tower

Mar 31, 2005, 01:11 AM	#4
ChoGGi DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,209 Rep Power: 0	it might give you more information about the error in event viewer (start>run>type in eventvwr.msc) edit: it might be easier to clear the logs out, run smartgart and then check the logs __________________ specs Common Problems and Fixes for your Radeon

Mar 31, 2005, 03:47 AM	#9
ChoGGi DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,209 Rep Power: 0	heres a link to the latest nforce4 chipset drivers http://www.msi.com.tw/program/suppor...CK804_NV11.zip __________________ specs Common Problems and Fixes for your Radeon

Mar 31, 2005, 09:40 PM	#12
blade5545 Shoots first ask's questions later Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Austin,TX Posts: 330 Rep Power: 0	ok, help is on the way very few people have the x700 and i actually own one, the only two overclocking tools which work for it are the ATI TOOL and its one of the betas and ATI Tray, omega drivers wont work the oc utility is based on radlinker and none of the revision even detect the x700. ATI Tray is great beacause it also enables the tempature sensor on the x700 pro. I dont know why none of the offical ati drivers show the tempature on this card but the temp sensor is there and working but only the ati tray tool reads it and displays the temp. This has nothing to do with nforce or ati this is due to the fact that there are very few x700 cards out there, the reason I have one is beacuse I got a huge ati employee discount but i dont work for ati but i work for somebody which is big cust of ati to get that discount . __________________ Dell Inspiron 700m 2 ghz Intel Mobile 2mb L2 cache 12.1 Ultrabrite 1.25 gig ram 80gig hdd 8x DVD-RW 4.5lbs 1.5" thick 5 hours battery DFI NF4 Ultra - D AMD Winchester 64 3200+ @4125+ 2.62ghz sold Swiftech H20-120-BB REV. 3 LIQUID COOLING KIT 2x512 OCZ EL DDR PC-3200 Dual Channel sold Platinum Rev 2 OCZ POWERSTREAM 520W sold ATI X700 PRO SEAGATE 160GIG SATA Windows XP PRO SP2 / PearPC - Apple OS X 10.2 Unknown "The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself." Last edited by blade5545; Mar 31, 2005 at 09:53 PM.

Mar 31, 2005, 11:44 PM	#14
blade5545 Shoots first ask's questions later Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Austin,TX Posts: 330 Rep Power: 0	Answers to your questions. Its none of their fault, like I said before the overclocking utility built in to omega drivers are actually called radlinker and its not made by omega its made by chris.w, the person that needs to add support is actually chris.w beacuse he is the one which makes radlinker which is then included in to omega drivers, but look for other pieces of software that I listed ati tool or ati tray they will both let you overclock the x700 card. __________________ Dell Inspiron 700m 2 ghz Intel Mobile 2mb L2 cache 12.1 Ultrabrite 1.25 gig ram 80gig hdd 8x DVD-RW 4.5lbs 1.5" thick 5 hours battery DFI NF4 Ultra - D AMD Winchester 64 3200+ @4125+ 2.62ghz sold Swiftech H20-120-BB REV. 3 LIQUID COOLING KIT 2x512 OCZ EL DDR PC-3200 Dual Channel sold Platinum Rev 2 OCZ POWERSTREAM 520W sold ATI X700 PRO SEAGATE 160GIG SATA Windows XP PRO SP2 / PearPC - Apple OS X 10.2 Unknown "The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself."

Mar 31, 2005, 12:36 AM	#2
@Husky DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Deux-Montagnes, QC, Canada Posts: 36 Rep Power: 0	Are you sure these are based on 4.12? I have them and the drivers number is 2.5.97a. Yours have a 2.6.05a label, I think these are the 5.1... And I notice that you are missing some tabs, like Smartgart(tm) and subtabs 3D, Options, Color in Advance 3D... Maybe Smartgart service didnt initialize. Here's what to do, copyed and pasted from Omega F.A.Q.: 1. The SmartGart service did not initialize. 2. SmartGart disabled AGP support because it found a problem. For case 1, make sure the "SmartGart" service is enabled and set to Automatic, also try starting the service manually, then restart your PC. For case 2, make sure you have the latest motherboard AGP chipset drivers installed; they can usually be found at the motherboard’s manufacturer page or you can get them directly from the chipset supplier, like Intel, VIA, NVIDIA, etc. Go in Start (bottom left), then Run. Type in Smartgart. Are the settings on? I'm not sure how it should be with PCI Express, as I have an AGP card, but the settings should all be ''On'' If you are lost, just re-install the damned drivers! Also, what is CTX 2085?

Mar 31, 2005, 01:37 AM	#6
@Husky DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Deux-Montagnes, QC, Canada Posts: 36 Rep Power: 0	There is a good Catalyst guide a www.tweakguides.com and here is what the autor says if SmartGART isnt fonctioning properly : However, if they won't remain On, then typically you will need to install/re-install the latest Motherboard AGP drivers, and also check and change your BIOS settings as covered in the relevant sections of this guide above. You can also try re-enabling the 'ATI Smart' service if you disabled it previously. You should read the guide to access to all information possible as I don't want to copy/paste the whole guide ;P

Mar 31, 2005, 03:39 AM	#8
mohair27 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	I have the same problem. Noboody has been able to figure it out yet. I don't have any of the tabs you have, just Advanced 3D and it shows nothing. I also have a PCI Express card, maybe there is some issue with PCI-E.

Mar 31, 2005, 08:30 PM	#10
plank DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	Having the same problem as well, latest motherboard drivers installed (asus p5gd1 vm/s). This is actually the first time I've used the omega drivers but I have followed the readme and the suggestions in this thread. Although, I do have the PCI-E version as well so AGP settings shouldn't be hindering me. Thanks for any help.

Apr 1, 2005, 01:21 AM	#16
EvaUnitXIV DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 229 Rep Power: 0	go back to 4.12 omega. maybe you got the bugged 5.1 omegas __________________ AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Abit KV8 Buffalo 2x512mb PC3200 ram 40GB Maxtor 7200rpm HD (Boot) 2x250GB WD SE 8mb Cache 7200rpm HD (Filedump) Benq 1620 Pro Liteon 1635s x800GTO @ x800XL SB Audigy Gamer WinXp Pro /w Sp2

Apr 1, 2005, 01:33 AM	#17
@Husky DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Deux-Montagnes, QC, Canada Posts: 36 Rep Power: 0	So Radlinker makes the SmartGART tab missing? And the other options in Advanced 3D?

Apr 1, 2005, 01:49 AM	#18
ChoGGi DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,209 Rep Power: 0	not the smartgart tab (i think that depends on you having AGP or PCIe). the advanced 3d tab is part of radlinker, no radlinker no advanced 3d tab. __________________ specs Common Problems and Fixes for your Radeon

Apr 1, 2005, 03:11 AM	#20
plank DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	What about the issue with the 3d tab missing? Makes it difficult to change anti-ailiasing and all that good stuff.

Apr 1, 2005, 03:19 AM	#21
ChoGGi DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,209 Rep Power: 0	try reinstalling radlinker that usually does it edit: oops im stoned, reinstalling proably wont work __________________ specs Common Problems and Fixes for your Radeon

Apr 4, 2005, 09:52 AM	#22
pigdog HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 471 Rep Power: 57 System Specs	I've got the same problem, and have had it since upgrading my rig to PCIe (and the rest you can see below). I get the same problem with the 4.12's, 5.1's and now the 5.2's (All Omega's - in other words Radlinker). Despite this, the drivers are great - just really would like my 3D tab. Not to mention a bit of OC'ing godness. Would be nice to hear from you Chris. __________________

Apr 4, 2005, 10:41 AM	#23
ChoGGi DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,209 Rep Power: 0	it isnt radlinker but ati tool allows you to (auto) over clock when games are running and underclock when your done __________________ specs Common Problems and Fixes for your Radeon

Apr 4, 2005, 11:50 AM	#24
Atragon DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	I'm experiencing the same problem here, only with a X800XL, fresh install on WinXP Pro /w SP1... Installed DX9c Reboot Installed nForce chipset drivers Reboot Installed Omega 5.2s Reboot Installed ATITool .24 Beta 6? Result: The Advanced 3D tab only has Clock Rate and About tabs under it. Note, the clock rate detects at 0/0, if you check and then uncheck enable clockrate change, it detects at 339/326. (ATI tool shows it as 400/490). System: A64 3000+ Winchester DFI NF4 Ultra-D 2x512MB KHX3200 MSI RX800XL-VT2D256E Seagate ST830817AS Seasonic S12-430W Power supply. I suspect it has something to do with PCI-E vs AGP...

Apr 4, 2005, 01:15 PM	#25
Orochimaru92 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	Me too, i suspect it has something to do with PCI-E.

Apr 24, 2005, 07:35 AM	#26
AirJarhead DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 58 Rep Power: 0	Has anyone contacted ChrisW about this? I like using Radlinker MUCH better than ATI Traytools. __________________ «ÂÎRJÂRHÊÂÐ» Q6600 @ 3.2Ghz Thermalright Ultra-90 DFI Blood Iron P35 4x1GB Geil Ultra EVGA 8800GT SC Creative Audigy 2ZS 2x Seagate 320 7200.10 Maxtor 250GB 7200.10 Lite-On DVD-RW 20x SATA Sunbeam NUUO 550W Windows XP Pro SP2 / Vista Business x64

Apr 24, 2005, 07:46 PM	#28
AirJarhead DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 58 Rep Power: 0	Found it, Thanks! __________________ «ÂÎRJÂRHÊÂÐ» Q6600 @ 3.2Ghz Thermalright Ultra-90 DFI Blood Iron P35 4x1GB Geil Ultra EVGA 8800GT SC Creative Audigy 2ZS 2x Seagate 320 7200.10 Maxtor 250GB 7200.10 Lite-On DVD-RW 20x SATA Sunbeam NUUO 550W Windows XP Pro SP2 / Vista Business x64