Problems with ATI Radeon 9600xt

Speqz · Apr 7, 2005, 02:11 AM

I just bought a PowerColor Radeon 9600xt off of newegg.com and the cards works and everything but the performance sucks. For example: My two previous cards Geforce fx 5600 and Geforce mx420 both ran quake2 at well over 170fps. After installing the ATI card i now can barely squeeze out 50fps...it fluctuates from 30 to 50....

ive tried reinstalling the ATI 5.3 drivers and I even tried the Omega drivers...same result...hardware problem or software. (software pleeeeez!!!!).

If any one can help or knows of this problem id appreciate it

My computer spec's are
Asus A7V880 MB
Athlon XP 2700
ATI Radeon 9600xt
512mb PC3200 DDR
Windows XP SP2

Speqz · Apr 7, 2005, 02:29 AM

also like to add that after trying hl2...crash and burn

Volcom929 · Apr 7, 2005, 03:04 AM

Did you use drivercleaner to get rid of the old Nvidia drivers? If not might be a driver conflict.

Speqz · Apr 7, 2005, 03:05 AM

no actually i didnt...nvdea would conflict like that?....where would i get driver clean

Volcom929 · Apr 7, 2005, 03:09 AM

Well you just so happen to be in exactly the right place to get driver cleaner. It can be found right here on this site. The address is http://www.drivercleaner.net/ . Use it to get rid of the old Nvidia and ATI drivers. Then you can do a complete reinstall of the ATI drivers. DO it in this order. Install driver cleaner and update it via live update. Delete all the old Nvidia drivers and ATI drivers. Then reboot into safe mode and use driver cleaner to get rid of the drivers. Reboot into normal windows and reinstall.

Speqz · Apr 7, 2005, 03:56 AM

well after uninstalling nvidea drviers...there was a slight improvment i must say...but still...fps is still very low....does directx 9.0c have anything to do with it? cuz ive tried almost everything that ive read with other peoples problems...im about to reformat.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Apr 7, 2005, 04:22 AM

Might be time / easier to do just format and do a fresh windows install

Robert McClelland · Apr 7, 2005, 04:40 AM

You should gotton an Abit like mine I have np with mine so far

Welcome to DH
Which verison of the card? 128 or 256? You can take card back get new one you know?

Speqz · Apr 7, 2005, 05:46 AM

i have the 128mb Robert...i just reformatted....and guess what....same problem...WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

low fps...there has to be some kind of conflict i dont know what to do anymore.....some1 pleez help me

when windows starts up cti.exe crashes...isnt that the catalyst program????

" CLI.exe - Application Error "
The application failed to initialize properly (0xc0000135).

i remember it that last time too

shouldnt be this hard to get this card going...honestly im regretting switching to ATI now

The_Neon_Cowboy · Apr 7, 2005, 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speqz

i have the 128mb Robert...i just reformatted....and guess what....same problem...WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

low fps...there has to be some kind of conflict i dont know what to do anymore.....some1 pleez help me

when windows starts up cti.exe crashes...isnt that the catalyst program????

" CLI.exe - Application Error "
The application failed to initialize properly (0xc0000135).

i remember it that last time too

shouldnt be this hard to get this card going...honestly im regretting switching to ATI now

You realise to use the CCC pack / Control panel you need .net 1.1 or 2.0 beta.
Go to windows update. Select custom, select optional companets, and .NET 1.1
then after you've installed it, run windows update again and install the critical update .NET 1.1 SP1

Other wise you can use the classic control panel version....

Also make sure you've installed the latest chipset drivers
http://www.viaarena.com/downloads/dr...n1_v455vp1.zip

Make sure you've updated to the latest bios A7V880 Release BIOS 1009 3/14/2005
http://www.asus.com.tw/support/downl...delName=A7V880

FearTheTerp · Apr 7, 2005, 06:06 AM

Did you install CCC or non CCC (Catalyst Control Center)? I had a problem where I installed a CCC version while I didn't have Microsoft Net Framework installed and all hell broke loose. Are you sure you did a complete reformat, reinstall the 5.3 drivers, and you still didn't get a performance improvement??? Since your motherboard has a VIA chipset there might be some errors between the AGP and the PCI slot. Try moving your pci cards one slot or as far as possible from the AGP slot. I heard of a problem of the AGP and the PCI slots conflicting on VIA's shitty chipsets while digging around for the answers of the numerous errors I got from their unstable products.

Speqz · Apr 7, 2005, 06:19 AM

there are no pci cards installed on this computer.....and yes full format...windows...ntfs (quick) is that now full?

and its the CCC drivers...thats whats gettin the error when i boot up...i cant even use that program

o0o 4got to reinstall the .net framework

im going to try the new 4v1 drivers..as for the mb update..i did that already no change

wiskerbizkit · Apr 7, 2005, 06:38 AM

Hope you didnt get bum memory, sometimes they put slow mem on those cards but i dont think theyd do it to an xt

Speqz · Apr 7, 2005, 06:41 AM

well after updating 4v1 and bios....and .net framework...CCC works...still very low fps... any other ideas?

Speqz · Apr 7, 2005, 06:43 AM

do you guys think its a compatibility thing with the game im using? quake2?

Speqz · Apr 7, 2005, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiskerbizkit

Hope you didnt get bum memory, sometimes they put slow mem on those cards but i dont think theyd do it to an xt

but why would it be this slow though? 40fps in a almost 9 year old game? doesnt make sense....thatd have to be some super shiisssshy memory for it to be that bad

im installing halflife 2 do a stress test ill get u guys the results....hope im amazed by them (in a good way)

INSTG8R · Apr 7, 2005, 07:08 AM

Im wondering if its a case of V-synch being on? from your first post you mentioned getting 107fps(sounds like V-synch off)

Speqz · Apr 7, 2005, 05:42 PM

problem solved guys...reformat fixed it.....but now when i play hl2 or cs:s the computer just restarts all by itself...it will be running perfectly then all of a sudden it restarts....anyone else have that problem

Speqz · Apr 7, 2005, 08:48 PM

ok i have a new problem with the card...while in the game...(quake 2; halfhlife2) the computer will freeze and shut off (not normal windows shutdown) i know have the new CAT 5.4 drivers...the same error occurred with the 5.3 drivers and the Omega Drivers....i got a windows error reporting log

Windows Error Reporting Log:

Error message: STOP 0x000000EA THREAD_STUCK_IN_DEVICE_DRIVER

<H2 class=subTitle><H2 class=subTitle><H2 class=subTitle>SYMPTOMS

You may receive one of the following Stop error messages: STOP 0x000000EA THREAD_STUCK_IN_DEVICE_DRIVER
STOP: 0x100000EA THREAD_STUCK_IN_DEVICE_DRIVER_M

</H2>CAUSE

This issue may occur if the display driver is caught in an infinite loop while it waits for the video hardware to become idle. This issue typically indicates a problem with the video hardware or that the display driver cannot program the hardware correctly.

RESOLUTION

To resolve this issue, obtain and install the most current driver for your video adapter, or replace your video card.

</H2></H2>

freekill_16 · Apr 16, 2005, 05:29 PM

i got the same friking problem

im trying to solve it for a month now but as i dont know mutch about computers (dam it

)
i didnt solve it yet.
btw if i dont play something soon im going to get MAD!!!
P.S: i would be happy for any help you guys out there could give me and Speqz

Robert McClelland · Apr 17, 2005, 11:36 PM

You guys might have bad card then. Try RMA it

Welcome to DH Freekill_16

freekill_16 · Apr 18, 2005, 06:07 PM

thx Robert McClelland

the problem is that i dont got money to but a new graphic card

btw my graphic card is a nvidia riva tnt2 model 64 pro dunno if this is a good or a bad card(but i think it is a bad one lol)

ROBSCIX · Oct 10, 2005, 05:12 PM

OK, shot in the dark here but did you install chipset drivers? guys sometimes forget those your can install a GFX card but it barley works..sounds like yours actually...can you please post back with this info..did you install your Chipset Drivers? If you forget these your card will balrey work... your AGP buss will be set to OFF..etc

Apr 7, 2005, 02:11 AM	#1
Speqz DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	Problems with ATI Radeon 9600xt - need help!!!! I just bought a PowerColor Radeon 9600xt off of newegg.com and the cards works and everything but the performance sucks. For example: My two previous cards Geforce fx 5600 and Geforce mx420 both ran quake2 at well over 170fps. After installing the ATI card i now can barely squeeze out 50fps...it fluctuates from 30 to 50.... ive tried reinstalling the ATI 5.3 drivers and I even tried the Omega drivers...same result...hardware problem or software. (software pleeeeez!!!!). If any one can help or knows of this problem id appreciate it My computer spec's are Asus A7V880 MB Athlon XP 2700 ATI Radeon 9600xt 512mb PC3200 DDR Windows XP SP2 Last edited by Speqz; Apr 7, 2005 at 02:41 AM.

Apr 7, 2005, 03:04 AM	#3
Volcom929 DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 175 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Did you use drivercleaner to get rid of the old Nvidia drivers? If not might be a driver conflict. __________________ AMD FX-53 w/ XP-120 & Panasonic 120mm Panaflow fan Asus A8V Deluxe Rev 1.02 BIOS 1009 ATI Radeon X1950 Pro AGP 2 GB Corsair XMS PC3200XL 2-3-3-6 Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro 2*WD 10,000 RPM Raptor Hd's Raid 0 120GB Seagate 7,200 SATA LiteOn 8x dvd +/- RW LiteOn 52X CD-RW LiteOn 16X DVD-ROM PC Power and Cooling Turbo-Cool 510 Deluxe

Apr 7, 2005, 03:09 AM	#5
Volcom929 DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 175 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Well you just so happen to be in exactly the right place to get driver cleaner. It can be found right here on this site. The address is http://www.drivercleaner.net/ . Use it to get rid of the old Nvidia and ATI drivers. Then you can do a complete reinstall of the ATI drivers. DO it in this order. Install driver cleaner and update it via live update. Delete all the old Nvidia drivers and ATI drivers. Then reboot into safe mode and use driver cleaner to get rid of the drivers. Reboot into normal windows and reinstall. __________________ AMD FX-53 w/ XP-120 & Panasonic 120mm Panaflow fan Asus A8V Deluxe Rev 1.02 BIOS 1009 ATI Radeon X1950 Pro AGP 2 GB Corsair XMS PC3200XL 2-3-3-6 Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro 2*WD 10,000 RPM Raptor Hd's Raid 0 120GB Seagate 7,200 SATA LiteOn 8x dvd +/- RW LiteOn 52X CD-RW LiteOn 16X DVD-ROM PC Power and Cooling Turbo-Cool 510 Deluxe

Apr 7, 2005, 04:22 AM	#7
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	Might be time / easier to do just format and do a fresh windows install __________________

Apr 7, 2005, 04:40 AM	#8
Robert McClelland PAX Tweaker, PAX Expert. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Somewhere in Wood County Ohio Same Town :) Posts: 10,673 Rep Power: 196 System Specs	You should gotton an Abit like mine I have np with mine so far Welcome to DH Which verison of the card? 128 or 256? You can take card back get new one you know? __________________ "XTREME AUDIO IS CRAP!" "There no support for it. It's crapist card on face of the earth it should be throw into the sun" http://www.speedtest.net/result/1949536385.png correct the correct one now

Apr 7, 2005, 02:29 AM	Thread Starter #2
Speqz DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	also like to add that after trying hl2...crash and burn

Apr 7, 2005, 03:05 AM	Thread Starter #4
Speqz DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	no actually i didnt...nvdea would conflict like that?....where would i get driver clean

Apr 7, 2005, 03:56 AM	Thread Starter #6
Speqz DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	well after uninstalling nvidea drviers...there was a slight improvment i must say...but still...fps is still very low....does directx 9.0c have anything to do with it? cuz ive tried almost everything that ive read with other peoples problems...im about to reformat.

Apr 7, 2005, 05:46 AM	Thread Starter #9
Speqz DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	i have the 128mb Robert...i just reformatted....and guess what....same problem...WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! low fps...there has to be some kind of conflict i dont know what to do anymore.....some1 pleez help me when windows starts up cti.exe crashes...isnt that the catalyst program???? " CLI.exe - Application Error " The application failed to initialize properly (0xc0000135). i remember it that last time too shouldnt be this hard to get this card going...honestly im regretting switching to ATI now Last edited by Speqz; Apr 7, 2005 at 05:56 AM.

Apr 7, 2005, 06:06 AM	#11
FearTheTerp DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Pacific Grove, California Posts: 358 Rep Power: 0	Did you install CCC or non CCC (Catalyst Control Center)? I had a problem where I installed a CCC version while I didn't have Microsoft Net Framework installed and all hell broke loose. Are you sure you did a complete reformat, reinstall the 5.3 drivers, and you still didn't get a performance improvement??? Since your motherboard has a VIA chipset there might be some errors between the AGP and the PCI slot. Try moving your pci cards one slot or as far as possible from the AGP slot. I heard of a problem of the AGP and the PCI slots conflicting on VIA's shitty chipsets while digging around for the answers of the numerous errors I got from their unstable products. __________________ System specs Motherboard:Biostar M7NCD Pro Cpu:AMD XP 2600+ Throughbred B @ 2340 195x12 Memory:2x Corsair CMX512-3200c2PT @ 195 mHz 2-3-3-10 Dual channel Graphics Card: Ati Radeon 9800 Pro All-In-Wonder w/Vga Silencer Rev 3 Antec SL-350

Apr 7, 2005, 06:19 AM	Thread Starter #12
Speqz DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	there are no pci cards installed on this computer.....and yes full format...windows...ntfs (quick) is that now full? and its the CCC drivers...thats whats gettin the error when i boot up...i cant even use that program o0o 4got to reinstall the .net framework im going to try the new 4v1 drivers..as for the mb update..i did that already no change

Apr 7, 2005, 06:38 AM	#13
wiskerbizkit DH ***** hobo Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Columbia SC Posts: 467 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Hope you didnt get bum memory, sometimes they put slow mem on those cards but i dont think theyd do it to an xt

Apr 7, 2005, 06:41 AM	Thread Starter #14
Speqz DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	well after updating 4v1 and bios....and .net framework...CCC works...still very low fps... any other ideas?

Apr 7, 2005, 06:43 AM	Thread Starter #15
Speqz DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	do you guys think its a compatibility thing with the game im using? quake2?

Apr 7, 2005, 07:08 AM	#17
INSTG8R DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canadian lost in Norway Posts: 527 Rep Power: 0	Im wondering if its a case of V-synch being on? from your first post you mentioned getting 107fps(sounds like V-synch off)

Apr 7, 2005, 05:42 PM	Thread Starter #18
Speqz DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	problem solved guys...reformat fixed it.....but now when i play hl2 or cs:s the computer just restarts all by itself...it will be running perfectly then all of a sudden it restarts....anyone else have that problem

Apr 7, 2005, 08:48 PM	Thread Starter #19
Speqz DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	ok i have a new problem with the card...while in the game...(quake 2; halfhlife2) the computer will freeze and shut off (not normal windows shutdown) i know have the new CAT 5.4 drivers...the same error occurred with the 5.3 drivers and the Omega Drivers....i got a windows error reporting log Windows Error Reporting Log: Error message: STOP 0x000000EA THREAD_STUCK_IN_DEVICE_DRIVER <H2 class=subTitle><H2 class=subTitle><H2 class=subTitle>SYMPTOMS You may receive one of the following Stop error messages: STOP 0x000000EA THREAD_STUCK_IN_DEVICE_DRIVER STOP: 0x100000EA THREAD_STUCK_IN_DEVICE_DRIVER_M </H2>CAUSE This issue may occur if the display driver is caught in an infinite loop while it waits for the video hardware to become idle. This issue typically indicates a problem with the video hardware or that the display driver cannot program the hardware correctly. RESOLUTION To resolve this issue, obtain and install the most current driver for your video adapter, or replace your video card. </H2></H2>

Apr 16, 2005, 05:29 PM	#20
freekill_16 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	i got the same friking problem im trying to solve it for a month now but as i dont know mutch about computers (dam it ) i didnt solve it yet. btw if i dont play something soon im going to get MAD!!! P.S: i would be happy for any help you guys out there could give me and Speqz

Apr 17, 2005, 11:36 PM	#21
Robert McClelland PAX Tweaker, PAX Expert. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Somewhere in Wood County Ohio Same Town :) Posts: 10,673 Rep Power: 196 System Specs	You guys might have bad card then. Try RMA it Welcome to DH Freekill_16 __________________ "XTREME AUDIO IS CRAP!" "There no support for it. It's crapist card on face of the earth it should be throw into the sun" http://www.speedtest.net/result/1949536385.png correct the correct one now

Apr 18, 2005, 06:07 PM	#22
freekill_16 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	thx Robert McClelland the problem is that i dont got money to but a new graphic card btw my graphic card is a nvidia riva tnt2 model 64 pro dunno if this is a good or a bad card(but i think it is a bad one lol)

Oct 10, 2005, 05:12 PM	#23
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	OK, shot in the dark here but did you install chipset drivers? guys sometimes forget those your can install a GFX card but it barley works..sounds like yours actually...can you please post back with this info..did you install your Chipset Drivers? If you forget these your card will balrey work... your AGP buss will be set to OFF..etc