[The_Neon_Cowboy]

Originally Posted by Zorg

One thing I note is that u (now) can switch off the ATi splash screen but it does not make CCC starting any faster.

The funny thing is so many wanted that ability and it has virtually no affect on the loading time. It's a placebo effect I guess. That why I said long ago, such an option would be fruitless, except for those who simply don't want to see the loading screen. The loading time isn't from the loading screen it's from the application it self. The loading screen just gives you something nice to look at while you wait for that moment. CCC loading speed and its responsiveness has been improved over previous versions.

Originally Posted by Poppi

That's good to hear. Now you have a VIA chipset, versus mine is a NF2. Also our video cards are different. One of these could be why.

Neon, what are your system specs?

EDIT: Neon, Spyre advises the 5.5s are OK with him and T Sunrise. Can you also tell me if you are using ATI Tray Tools?

Windows XP SP2, ATI X800XL 256MB (PCI Express), AMD 64 3400+ @ 2.4 GHZ, Socket 754, MSI "K8N Neo3-FSR" nForce4-4X, 1GB Rosewill PC3200 (1024x1), 120GB Seagate W/8MB Cache, 56X CDrom, CDRW+DVD 48x24x48x16, 450W Dual Fan Rosewill PS

No i don't use 3rd party tools they can interfere with my testing some times

[Poppi]

Originally Posted by The_Neon_Cowboy

Windows XP SP2, ATI X800XL 256MB (PCI Express), AMD 64 3400+ @ 2.4 GHZ, Socket 754, MSI "K8N Neo3-FSR" nForce4-4X, 1GB Rosewill PC3200 (1024x1), 120GB Seagate W/8MB Cache, 56X CDrom, CDRW+DVD 48x24x48x16, 450W Dual Fan Rosewill PS

No i don't use 3rd party tools they can interfere with my testing some times

Have you heard anything about a fix for this yet? I've tried everything, but still hard crashes with this game and the 5.5s. So far I am as far as submitting a problem file (system info.) to ATI.

[IvanV]

I've been a 4.12 fan ever since they came out, but I think it's time for a change (the given results are in the form 4.12 5.5 difference):

DirectX performance:

CS:Source Stress Test: 120.x fps 116.x fps [color=Red]-3.3%
[color=White](BTW, it has nothing to do with the updates, I don't have them, I have a 56k modem instead)[/color]
[color=White]3DMark03: 6152 6130 [color=Red]-0.4%
[color=White]3DMark05: 2474 2502 [color=Lime]+1.3%

[color=White]OpenGL performance:
GL Excess: 12910 12944 [color=Lime]+0.3%
[color=White]The Chronicles of Riddick Demo: [/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][/color][color=Yellow]all three prerecorded runs were identical[/color]

[color=White]BUT, I played it with FRAPS on and i noticed a place where my fps dropped to 18 with 4.12 (I tried it several times, always the same). With 5.5, my framerate at that exactly the same spot (and same game settings) was 23-24, [color=Lime]+30%[color=White]!!

My specs:
Radeon 9800Pro 128MB
AMD Athlon64 3000+
MSI K8T-Neo (VIA K8T800)
512MB DDR400 3-3-3-8
all at stock
[/color][/color][/color]

[BWX]

I am running 4.12 Omega's- Hopefully 5.5 Omega's will be out soon.

[UnTouchAble]

I get some error in System Logs (Event Viewer) it says;

Warning: ati2mtag - Invalid pixel format - Catergery DVD_OV - Event 62470

[MousePotato]

bah, scrrew 5.5 drivers !

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/windows-xp-radeon-display-drivers/74821-error-infinite-loop-hl2.html

[Zorg]

Originally Posted by IvanV

I've been a 4.12 fan ever since they came out, but I think it's time for a change (the given results are in the form 4.12 5.5 difference):
...

Yes, u will note that the visual quality in games has improved allot since 4.12 provided u play with maxed quality settings.

[The_Neon_Cowboy]

Originally Posted by Poppi

Have you heard anything about a fix for this yet? I've tried everything, but still hard crashes with this game and the 5.5s. So far I am as far as submitting a problem file (system info.) to ATI.

Things don't happen that way it takes time. It doesn't help that it happens to some people but not others either. It likely going to be harder for them to isolate. It comes down to them being able to duplicate and if possable resolve it. It could even be something that needs fixed on the game makers end or something else. Only time will tell .... It's important tha everyone have the issue report it and details of thier system configeration.

But it helps somewhat that I was able to duplicate it ....

[color=#cccccc]Hmmm. Their a foreign company with NVIDIA "meant to be played" plasterd on it [/color][color=#cccccc]joy [/color]

Check your Pm's

Originally Posted by MousePotato

bah, scrrew 5.5 drivers !
htp://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthread.php?t=74821

I've said all I can think of on the subject already in your thread.

[Poppi]

Originally Posted by The_Neon_Cowboy

Things don't happen that way it takes time. It doesn't help that it happens to some people but not others either. It likely going to be harder for them to isolate. It comes down to them being able to duplicate and if possable resolve it. It could even be something that needs fixed on the game makers end or something else. Only time will tell .... It's important tha everyone have the issue report it and details of thier system configeration.

But it helps somewhat that I was able to duplicate it ....

[color=#cccccc]Hmmm. Their a foreign company with NVIDIA "meant to be played" plasterd on it [/color][color=#cccccc]joy [/color]

Check your Pm's

Neon,

Could not send you a PM. Your box is full.

CP settings always on Quality when I play. Tried your suggestions to no avail. System crashes still and crashes hard. You could hear the HDD arm slam down on the disk.

Have you tried the 5.4s? Works perfect with my and your settings. I have found no similarities with those who have no crashing versus you and I and others who crash. I hope ATI can fix.

Thanks for the help.
Poppi.

[Zorg]

Originally Posted by Poppi

Neon,

.... System crashes still and crashes hard. You could hear the HDD arm slam down on the disk.

.....

HD bangs? - Then u definitely have a hardware problem...

[Poppi]

Originally Posted by Zorg

HD bangs? - Then u definitely have a hardware problem...

It's not a bang, it's more like a click. I described it as a slam because it only does it with Trackmania Sunrise. Not a hardware problem as everything else runs flawless, even Trackmania Sunrise with the 5.4s. Please support your definitive conclusions next time.

[Zorg]

Originally Posted by Poppi

It's not a bang, it's more like a click. I described it as a slam because it only does it with Trackmania Sunrise. Not a hardware problem as everything else runs flawless, even Trackmania Sunrise with the 5.4s. Please support your definitive conclusions next time.

even clicking is not a "good" noise - usually means the HD internally resets.
I can't do definitive conclusions based on some lines of text but what u can do is check the s.m.a.r.t status of the Hd for hard errors. I doubt that's a driver related issue

[Poppi]

Originally Posted by Zorg

even clicking is not a "good" noise - usually means the HD internally resets.
I can't do definitive conclusions based on some lines of text but what u can do is check the s.m.a.r.t status of the Hd for hard errors. I doubt that's a driver related issue

Why would it not be a driver issue when the 5.4s work fine and all the trouble starts when the 5.5s are installed? This being after multiple installs/uninstalls with the same results apparent.

[Zorg]

Originally Posted by Poppi

Why would it not be a driver issue when the 5.4s work fine and all the trouble starts when the 5.5s are installed? This being after multiple installs/uninstalls with the same results apparent.

Coz device resets (usually) are hardware triggered and not by software/video driver. Maybe 5.5 puts more/too much load on your hd/dma bus causing the "I give up" noise. Again, this is not a definitive statement.

[Ferret_Style]

Ok i had a strange frame rate Issue is World of Warcraft where it report 50 FPS and it would look like 10 FPS. Installed 5.5 and BAM it was gone. These are MUCH better. And for those with older card i am using a 9800 np!

[thomasabarnes]

I have a problem with the Catalyst 5.5 driver and a Radeon 8500 with Win XP (SP2).
In Comanche 4 the graphics are messed up. For instance, on one game map there are islands that are supposed to be green, but I see some of the smaller islands as black.

Even one of the huge islands is partly black and green. Never had this before, so I'm going to uninstall and install 5.4. I wanted to report this, though.

[Spyre]

I just tried Comanche 4 on my 8500DV and didnt encounter a problem

What ingame and control panel settings and which map in particular ?

[Poppi]

Originally Posted by Poppi

Neon,

Could not send you a PM. Your box is full.

CP settings always on Quality when I play. Tried your suggestions to no avail. System crashes still and crashes hard. You could hear the HDD arm slam down on the disk.

Have you tried the 5.4s? Works perfect with my and your settings. I have found no similarities with those who have no crashing versus you and I and others who crash. I hope ATI can fix.

Thanks for the help.
Poppi.

Thought I was on to something here. Tried to open a downloaded movie, for an upcoming game (Hellgate: London), with a trial version of DivX Pro. Computer crashed just like it did in Trackmania Sunrise. This was with the 5.4s.

Uninstalled DixX and reinstalled 5.5s. Unfortunatly, Trackmania Sunrise still crashed when going to the main menu, quiting race etc. Reinstalled 5.4s again and all OK with game.

[thomasabarnes]

Originally Posted by Spyre

I just tried Comanche 4 on my 8500DV and didnt encounter a problem

What ingame and control panel settings and which map in particular ?

Thanks for the reply Spyre:

It turned out that that's the way the islands just look. It's a new map on R-A-B's server. When I 1st saw the black islands I asked if it's suppose to be that way and VenturaFWD told me he saw all the islands as green. I went back in yesterday and another player said he saw black islands too. So, I'm concluding it's the map that's like that.

BTW, do you play C4 a lot? I am HotShotFWP, give me a holler if you see me around.

[jtchans]

Im trying to install 5.5 on a mobility 9600 pro but when i am it says: "the display driver is not compatible with the display adapters." Ive tryed DH mod and everything what can i do

EDIT: Found out what the problem was thanks to you guys I learned that you cant have omega and catalyst installed at the same time thxx

[Spyre]

Originally Posted by thomasabarnes

Thanks for the reply Spyre:

It turned out that that's the way the islands just look. It's a new map on R-A-B's server. When I 1st saw the black islands I asked if it's suppose to be that way and VenturaFWD told me he saw all the islands as green. I went back in yesterday and another player said he saw black islands too. So, I'm concluding it's the map that's like that.

BTW, do you play C4 a lot? I am HotShotFWP, give me a holler if you see me around.

Oh ok, no I havent played it for a long while, just installed it in case there was a driver problem

[NAZ2222]

Does anyone got worse performance on far cry, with 5.5??? maybe because of the better IQ?? i had DH 5.4 with the far cry tweak, can that have anything to do with that???

[magik10]

With a x800xt PE and 5.5 performance in HL2/CS:S has increased slightly but more importantly, the IQ has gone way up!!! Thanks ATI and looking forward to more releases as such.

[HooDee]

Originally Posted by Poppi

Can anyone tell me why Trackmania Sunrise (Full Game) keeps rebooting my computer when implementing command prompts (restart, quit, etc.) in the game, while using the 5.5s? It occurs about 10 minutes after playing. After each reboot I kept tweaking the games configuration to no avail.

Furthering, after the 5th reboot I lost my source file and all my earned medals in the races! Anyway, converting back to the 5.4s solved the problem. Clean install for both drivers.

I can safely say this is a 5.5 driver issue. Any help?

Hi, sorry for the late reply but I can confirm your problem as I'm having exactly the same problem when playing Trackmania Sunrise demo. I have a brand new WinXP SP2 installation + updates/drivers. With 5.5 drivers I can play the game for a few minutes but after that it always BSODs for me at some point. Also for some reason the bluescreen itself is completely blank, no text at all, just blue screen which is a bit odd.

Going back to the 5.4 driver solves my problems too, no crashes, bsods etc. the game works perfectly even after long session.

Re-install 5.5 drivers the game will BSOD after a few minutes.

Trackmania is the only game I've had any problems at all for everything else 5.5 drivers seem to be working just fine. Anyhow, I went back to 5.4 just to be sure.

Quick machine specs:
Athlon XP 3200+
Abit NF7-S v2.0
1GB DDR
Gigabyte Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB
Audigy 2
WinXP Pro SP2 (slipstreamed) English version.

[Poppi]

Originally Posted by HooDee

Hi, sorry for the late reply but I can confirm your problem as I'm having exactly the same problem when playing Trackmania Sunrise demo. I have a brand new WinXP SP2 installation + updates/drivers. With 5.5 drivers I can play the game for a few minutes but after that it always BSODs for me at some point. Also for some reason the bluescreen itself is completely blank, no text at all, just blue screen which is a bit odd.

Going back to the 5.4 driver solves my problems too, no crashes, bsods etc. the game works perfectly even after long session.

Re-install 5.5 drivers the game will BSOD after a few minutes.

Trackmania is the only game I've had any problems at all for everything else 5.5 drivers seem to be working just fine. Anyhow, I went back to 5.4 just to be sure.

Quick machine specs:
Athlon XP 3200+
Abit NF7-S v2.0
1GB DDR
Gigabyte Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB
Audigy 2
WinXP Pro SP2 (slipstreamed) English version.

HooDee, thanks for the response. Maybe if you get a chance, can you submit a ticket to ATI? It's interesting, you get a BSOD and I get a restart. ATI's latest response to me with my ticket was to revert back to the 5.4s until the issue is addressed .