All Drivers Benchmarked Here!

methodfilter · Jul 1, 2005, 09:26 PM

[color=#000000]I’ve decided to do my own benchmarking of all the available drivers for my Asus ATi x850XT PE (AGP) card. What I did was run 19 tests on all the drivers and then scored them to see what would work best with my system. Basically I used seven different benchmarks then did them 3 times per driver (except PCMark05 which I only did once per driver), then averaged out that score. I then gave them points based on that. If the driver had the best results for their round they got one point, if they have the best average score they got two points. So if a driver scored first in all 3 rounds (and obviously was the best average score) it would receive 5 points (1 for each round and 2 for the top average score). Anytime a drive scored the worst result it received -1 points, -2 if it was the worst average score. So you could receive -5 points if it was the worst overall driver. [/color]

[color=#000000]The benchmarks I used were:[/color]

[color=#000000]3DMark05[/color]

[color=#000000]PCMark05 [/color]

[color=#000000]Aquamark3[/color]

[color=#000000]CounterStrike Source Stress Test[/color]

[color=#000000]Then I ran FRAPS 5 times during the same situations of the following games:[/color]

[color=#000000]Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas[/color]

[color=#000000]Half-Life 2[/color]

[color=#000000]Battlefield 2[/color]

[color=#000000]I loaded up the same part in the game for all the tests so it was unbiased. I then removed the highest and lowest score out of the 5, then used the remaining 3 to score the round.[/color]

[color=#000000]I know it may sound super confusing but basically I found out that the Asus drivers are the worst and the Omega’s scored the best. Unfortunately, Omega’s drivers screwed up my BF2 after awhile so I use the second place NGO drivers.[/color]

[color=#000000]If you would like to download the test to use, go here[/color]

[color=#0000ff]http://www.arnoldhearing.ca/Benchmark.xls[/color][color=#000000] it’s in MS Excel and you just have to erase my numbers and put in your own[/color]

[color=#000000]If you would just like to see the test go here[/color]

[color=#0000ff]http://www.arnoldhearing.ca/Benchmark.pdf[/color]

[color=#000000]I know it’s a funny address but I’m just using my company’s domain :P[/color]

[color=#000000]It’s a very non-professional test, but it was [/color]

sc3000 · Jul 1, 2005, 10:35 PM

How do you test it in bf2?

Ferret_Style · Jul 1, 2005, 10:39 PM

strange scoring system... lol try just doing 1 through 6 then the lowest score wins

you are kinda weighting a lowest score on them... but that is the statistics in me

No_Style · Jul 1, 2005, 10:46 PM

I wonder what NGO did to get their BF2 performance that high over the rest.

NeoB!te · Jul 2, 2005, 02:26 AM

Yea what about Battlefield 2, screw css dude man. Its all about Battlefield 2 right now css can wait till im bored wth BF2.

IvanV · Jul 2, 2005, 01:43 PM

How come that the results are so inconsistent? For examle in GTA:SA Asus scored
run 1: 55.56 lowest of all
run 2: 73.21 highest of all
run 3: 59.82
and that's with it's highest and lowest score removed.

methodfilter · Jul 2, 2005, 05:26 PM

Like I said the system was something I just made up on the fly for myself. It's what happens when you're bored at work. I noticed there are some scores that are inconsistant so that's why I ran the tests several times. But I loaded the same save for every test and just took the FRAPS FPS average while looking at traffic (in GTA). So I have no clue why in some it was super high and some super low. I just really like how well BF2 played with the NGO's.

NeoB!te · Jul 2, 2005, 07:33 PM

Whats NGOs, can you elaborate on that please?

nitrousoxide52 · Jul 2, 2005, 07:38 PM

NGO's are a set of modded ATI drivers, so are Omega's, and so on.

NeoB!te · Jul 2, 2005, 07:46 PM

Thats common sense buddy, im not asking for that. I'm asking for info whos NGO?, Where can i get them?( sorry to late have them), What do they do for BF2 as mentioned?

Chaos · Jul 2, 2005, 09:11 PM

You can get the NGO drivers from NGOHQ

riles9262 · Jul 2, 2005, 09:41 PM

They have their own forums on their page...ask on their page what they do to make bf2 run faster; they should be able to explain their steps/tweaks.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Jul 4, 2005, 03:05 AM

The NGO people used to be on this site but found them selfs banned and for reason
as to thier posts on these forums. As well as clashes with the rules and moderators.

me on benchmarking side commentary:

As for the test results you have to set up a laboratory like clean testing environment
or the scores = nothing. Because tons factors found in a normal system will strew the
results. That why I look at such reviews with a lot of skepticism. Also the fact you have
to restore the registry etc to their previous systems which only sure way is a full format
after each driver. Though you can try a system restore.

Each set alters registry settings, files etc... Some even load some stuff behind the scenes.
So when you uninstall one set then install another the previous set can still be affecting all
scores there after...Your system setup, programs installed, processes running, clearing
caches or lackther of, not defragmenting the hard, even how long windows has been
installed can and will strew your results. Meaning they are all over the place as yours are.
In ideal test system weather you repeat a test 3 time or 15 the “average” should be very
close the same! Each set of tests must be done in the exact same order etc...

It's long hard and pacetaking to get accurate results. You can't just thow the drivers
in a bench them a few times there is alot more to it then that or your results wont be
reproduceable. If that can't be done the numbers are worthless.Also best way to display
data is in bar graphs not charts...

Not picking at any just informing them a little more
I used to do a lot of testing

FnF · Jul 4, 2005, 12:45 PM

Hm, the NGO drivers seems very interesting for me

Did anyone else tested BF2 with NGO and had the same results?

UnTouchAble · Jul 4, 2005, 03:29 PM

Yes, me, seems smoother

First time ive used these NGO.

Jul 1, 2005, 09:26 PM	#1
methodfilter DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cambridge, ON Posts: 19 Rep Power: 0	All Drivers Benchmarked Here! [color=#000000]I’ve decided to do my own benchmarking of all the available drivers for my Asus ATi x850XT PE (AGP) card. What I did was run 19 tests on all the drivers and then scored them to see what would work best with my system. Basically I used seven different benchmarks then did them 3 times per driver (except PCMark05 which I only did once per driver), then averaged out that score. I then gave them points based on that. If the driver had the best results for their round they got one point, if they have the best average score they got two points. So if a driver scored first in all 3 rounds (and obviously was the best average score) it would receive 5 points (1 for each round and 2 for the top average score). Anytime a drive scored the worst result it received -1 points, -2 if it was the worst average score. So you could receive -5 points if it was the worst overall driver. [/color] [color=#000000]The benchmarks I used were:[/color] [color=#000000]3DMark05[/color] [color=#000000]PCMark05 [/color] [color=#000000]Aquamark3[/color] [color=#000000]CounterStrike Source Stress Test[/color] [color=#000000]Then I ran FRAPS 5 times during the same situations of the following games:[/color] [color=#000000]Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas[/color] [color=#000000]Half-Life 2[/color] [color=#000000]Battlefield 2[/color] [color=#000000]I loaded up the same part in the game for all the tests so it was unbiased. I then removed the highest and lowest score out of the 5, then used the remaining 3 to score the round.[/color] [color=#000000]I know it may sound super confusing but basically I found out that the Asus drivers are the worst and the Omega’s scored the best. Unfortunately, Omega’s drivers screwed up my BF2 after awhile so I use the second place NGO drivers.[/color] [color=#000000]If you would like to download the test to use, go here[/color] [color=#0000ff]http://www.arnoldhearing.ca/Benchmark.xls[/color][color=#000000] it’s in MS Excel and you just have to erase my numbers and put in your own[/color] [color=#000000]If you would just like to see the test go here[/color] [color=#0000ff]http://www.arnoldhearing.ca/Benchmark.pdf[/color] [color=#000000]I know it’s a funny address but I’m just using my company’s domain :P[/color] [color=#000000]It’s a very non-professional test, but it was [/color] __________________ [color=navy]*"like you perseverance is a useless tool"[/color] [color=navy]-Bad Religion[/color] [color=slategray]Specs:[/color] [color=slategray]AMD FX-53, Asus A8V Deluxe, 2 GB's of DDR400 PC3200 Ram, Soundblaster Audigy 2 Platinum, ATi x850XT PE, 160 GB HD*[/color]

Jul 1, 2005, 10:46 PM	#4
No_Style Styleless Wonder Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 6,034 Rep Power: 0	I wonder what NGO did to get their BF2 performance that high over the rest. __________________ "The Best Style Is No Style" Specifications Here

Jul 2, 2005, 02:26 AM	#5
NeoB!te DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 56 Rep Power: 0	Yea what about Battlefield 2, screw css dude man. Its all about Battlefield 2 right now css can wait till im bored wth BF2. __________________ P4 3.9GHZ 1041FSB x850XT 527/600 2GB OCZ PC 3200 @ CL 2-3-2-5 74 GB Raptor, 10,000 RPM, 8 MB Cache 19" Sync Master DF

Jul 2, 2005, 01:43 PM	#6
IvanV HH Assassin Guild Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,655 Rep Power: 280 System Specs	How come that the results are so inconsistent? For examle in GTA:SA Asus scored run 1: 55.56 lowest of all run 2: 73.21 highest of all run 3: 59.82 and that's with it's highest and lowest score removed. __________________ Our Folding@home stats:

Jul 2, 2005, 05:26 PM	Thread Starter #7
methodfilter DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cambridge, ON Posts: 19 Rep Power: 0	Like I said the system was something I just made up on the fly for myself. It's what happens when you're bored at work. I noticed there are some scores that are inconsistant so that's why I ran the tests several times. But I loaded the same save for every test and just took the FRAPS FPS average while looking at traffic (in GTA). So I have no clue why in some it was super high and some super low. I just really like how well BF2 played with the NGO's. __________________ [color=navy]*"like you perseverance is a useless tool"[/color] [color=navy]-Bad Religion[/color] [color=slategray]Specs:[/color] [color=slategray]AMD FX-53, Asus A8V Deluxe, 2 GB's of DDR400 PC3200 Ram, Soundblaster Audigy 2 Platinum, ATi x850XT PE, 160 GB HD*[/color]

Jul 1, 2005, 10:35 PM	#2
sc3000 DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New York Posts: 225 Rep Power: 0	How do you test it in bf2?

Jul 2, 2005, 07:33 PM	#8
NeoB!te DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 56 Rep Power: 0	Whats NGOs, can you elaborate on that please? __________________ P4 3.9GHZ 1041FSB x850XT 527/600 2GB OCZ PC 3200 @ CL 2-3-2-5 74 GB Raptor, 10,000 RPM, 8 MB Cache 19" Sync Master DF

Jul 2, 2005, 07:38 PM	#9
nitrousoxide52 Driverheaven.com err .net Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,719 Rep Power: 0	NGO's are a set of modded ATI drivers, so are Omega's, and so on. __________________ AMD Athlon64 X2 3800+ XFX Geforce 7800GT ABIT AN8-SLI BFG Tech 650w

Jul 2, 2005, 07:46 PM	#10
NeoB!te DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 56 Rep Power: 0	Thats common sense buddy, im not asking for that. I'm asking for info whos NGO?, Where can i get them?( sorry to late have them), What do they do for BF2 as mentioned? __________________ P4 3.9GHZ 1041FSB x850XT 527/600 2GB OCZ PC 3200 @ CL 2-3-2-5 74 GB Raptor, 10,000 RPM, 8 MB Cache 19" Sync Master DF

Jul 2, 2005, 09:11 PM	#11
Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,269 Rep Power: 165 System Specs	You can get the NGO drivers from NGOHQ __________________

Jul 2, 2005, 09:41 PM	#12
riles9262 Driverheaven brewmaster Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,842 Rep Power: 70 System Specs	They have their own forums on their page...ask on their page what they do to make bf2 run faster; they should be able to explain their steps/tweaks. __________________ A beer a day keeps the doctor away.

Jul 4, 2005, 03:05 AM	#13
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	The NGO people used to be on this site but found them selfs banned and for reason as to thier posts on these forums. As well as clashes with the rules and moderators. me on benchmarking side commentary: As for the test results you have to set up a laboratory like clean testing environment or the scores = nothing. Because tons factors found in a normal system will strew the results. That why I look at such reviews with a lot of skepticism. Also the fact you have to restore the registry etc to their previous systems which only sure way is a full format after each driver. Though you can try a system restore. Each set alters registry settings, files etc... Some even load some stuff behind the scenes. So when you uninstall one set then install another the previous set can still be affecting all scores there after...Your system setup, programs installed, processes running, clearing caches or lackther of, not defragmenting the hard, even how long windows has been installed can and will strew your results. Meaning they are all over the place as yours are. In ideal test system weather you repeat a test 3 time or 15 the “average” should be very close the same! Each set of tests must be done in the exact same order etc... It's long hard and pacetaking to get accurate results. You can't just thow the drivers in a bench them a few times there is alot more to it then that or your results wont be reproduceable. If that can't be done the numbers are worthless.Also best way to display data is in bar graphs not charts... Not picking at any just informing them a little more I used to do a lot of testing __________________ Last edited by The_Neon_Cowboy; Jul 4, 2005 at 03:21 AM.

Jul 4, 2005, 12:45 PM	#14
FnF DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 615 Rep Power: 0	Hm, the NGO drivers seems very interesting for me Did anyone else tested BF2 with NGO and had the same results?

Jul 4, 2005, 03:29 PM	#15
UnTouchAble DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: S-O-T Posts: 342 Rep Power: 0	Yes, me, seems smoother First time ive used these NGO.