ATI and UT D3D

RIV@NVX · Dec 15, 2002, 06:04 PM

I have been playing this game a lot lately, so I found a lot of things... thad don't look as they should.
OpenGL doesn't work and doesn't look good (Voice Menu has some strange artifacts on side, screen is sometimes flashing, overally it looks bad), but D3D generally works better except some things like UT menu and some white dots that appear sometimes on scren.
Screenshot
WTF? In 3 years old UT? On Radeon 8500? C'mon, ATI.
Any ideas (Kyro and NV don't have this problem)?

Brian48 · Dec 17, 2002, 03:11 AM

I don't have this problem running UT in either OpenGL or D3D with my R8500. In fact, OpenGL using compressed textures is even faster than D3D with my particular setup. Did you use the updated OpenGL renderer from Epic as well as the recommended .ini settings?

Using v6218 drivers:

Screen shot 1 - OpenGL

Screen shot 2 - OpenGL

RIV@NVX · Dec 17, 2002, 02:49 PM

Your menu doesn't look that bad as on my screenshot (IN D3D)?

NOTICE THE STRANGE BARS.

Also, Voice Menu (V by default) has some weird mess around it (hard to notice - try looking at it while moving mouse cursor through menues).

Brian48 · Dec 17, 2002, 03:47 PM

I'll run it again tonight under both D3D and OpenGL to see if I can replicate the problem.

RIV@NVX · Dec 21, 2002, 07:21 PM

D3DDrv.dll and OpenGLDrv.dll (in UT\System dir) - can you zip them both and e-mail them to me?

Zarathustra · Dec 22, 2002, 04:57 PM

OpenGL runs faster in UT on my 9700, but D3D looks better IMHO. Never noticed those gliches you have in the pictures though.

Brian48 · Dec 24, 2002, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brian48
D3DDrv.dll and OpenGLDrv.dll (in UT\System dir) - can you zip them both and e-mail them to me?

Ah man, I'm sorry to have blown you off. With the holidays and all, I don't come here often and I completely forgot about this post.

Anyway, I'm using the same D3D driver that comes with the v4.36 UT patch. For OpenGL, I use this updated one that Epic put out for Radeon users a few months ago along with the compressed S3TC textures from the game's second CD.

http://unreal.epicgames.com/files/UT...Drv-090602.zip

For OpenGL, this is what I use in the unrealtournament.ini file (it's slightly different than what's recommended by Epic):

[OpenGLDrv.OpenGLRenderDevice]
RefreshRate=Default
DetailTextures=1
UseTrilinear=0
UseS3TC=1
UseTNT=0
LODBias=0
UseMultiTexture=1
UsePalette=1
UseAlphaPalette=0
Translucency=1
VolumetricLighting=0
ShinySurfaces=1
Coronas=1
HighDetailActors=1
MaxAnisotropy=0
AlwaysMipmap=0
UsePrecache=1
SupportsLazyTextures=0

By the way, I don't use FSAA at all with my 8500. I've found that not only is it an unacceptable performance hit, it also causes weird anomalies like the one you've just described.

RIV@NVX · Dec 24, 2002, 03:20 PM

OK, please e-mail me D3DDrv.dll (since I got that one that comes with Creative Labs UT patch).

Brian48 · Dec 24, 2002, 06:42 PM

OK, I'll do that tonight when I get home. I think it's the same file though. The main difference between the retail and Creative 4.36 patch is the installer and some of the branding. The core engine and driver files should be the same.

Brian48 · Dec 25, 2002, 04:58 AM

Here you go. I posted it up on my FTP.

http://users.rcn.com/chinmonster/D3DDrv.dll

Dec 15, 2002, 06:04 PM	#1
RIV@NVX Freedom is a feature. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Croatia, Rijeka Posts: 4,476 Rep Power: 67 System Specs	ATI and UT D3D I have been playing this game a lot lately, so I found a lot of things... thad don't look as they should. OpenGL doesn't work and doesn't look good (Voice Menu has some strange artifacts on side, screen is sometimes flashing, overally it looks bad), but D3D generally works better except some things like UT menu and some white dots that appear sometimes on scren. Screenshot WTF? In 3 years old UT? On Radeon 8500? C'mon, ATI. Any ideas (Kyro and NV don't have this problem)? __________________ -- Vedran

Dec 17, 2002, 02:49 PM	Thread Starter #3
RIV@NVX Freedom is a feature. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Croatia, Rijeka Posts: 4,476 Rep Power: 67 System Specs	Your menu doesn't look that bad as on my screenshot (IN D3D)? NOTICE THE STRANGE BARS. Also, Voice Menu (V by default) has some weird mess around it (hard to notice - try looking at it while moving mouse cursor through menues). __________________ -- Vedran

Dec 17, 2002, 03:47 PM	#4
Brian48 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 55 Rep Power: 0	I'll run it again tonight under both D3D and OpenGL to see if I can replicate the problem. __________________ My current specs....... Heatware References eBay References

Dec 21, 2002, 07:21 PM	Thread Starter #5
RIV@NVX Freedom is a feature. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Croatia, Rijeka Posts: 4,476 Rep Power: 67 System Specs	D3DDrv.dll and OpenGLDrv.dll (in UT\System dir) - can you zip them both and e-mail them to me? __________________ -- Vedran

Dec 24, 2002, 03:20 PM	Thread Starter #8
RIV@NVX Freedom is a feature. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Croatia, Rijeka Posts: 4,476 Rep Power: 67 System Specs	OK, please e-mail me D3DDrv.dll (since I got that one that comes with Creative Labs UT patch). __________________ -- Vedran

Dec 17, 2002, 03:11 AM	#2
Brian48 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 55 Rep Power: 0	I don't have this problem running UT in either OpenGL or D3D with my R8500. In fact, OpenGL using compressed textures is even faster than D3D with my particular setup. Did you use the updated OpenGL renderer from Epic as well as the recommended .ini settings? Using v6218 drivers: Screen shot 1 - OpenGL Screen shot 2 - OpenGL

Dec 22, 2002, 04:57 PM	#6
Zarathustra Elite Bastard Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Confederacy Posts: 841 Rep Power: 0	OpenGL runs faster in UT on my 9700, but D3D looks better IMHO. Never noticed those gliches you have in the pictures though.

Dec 24, 2002, 06:42 PM	#9
Brian48 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 55 Rep Power: 0	OK, I'll do that tonight when I get home. I think it's the same file though. The main difference between the retail and Creative 4.36 patch is the installer and some of the branding. The core engine and driver files should be the same.

Dec 25, 2002, 04:58 AM	#10
Brian48 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 55 Rep Power: 0	Here you go. I posted it up on my FTP. http://users.rcn.com/chinmonster/D3DDrv.dll