NGO 1.5.7 (ATi Catalyst 5.7) Are Out!

FnF · Jul 19, 2005, 09:01 AM

The new NGO's are out:

The NGO ATI Optimized Driver is a tweaked version of the ATI Catalyst driver. The main purpose is to satisfy the users with a better performance and better image quality. The Driver has support for all Radeon cards.

Changes:
* Updated base to Catalyst 5.7
* Added Ultra Edition
* Added support for more cards
* Updated OpenGL Driver Switcher

Ultra Edition:
The Ultra Edition is optimized for cards with 256Mb or more. It uses the ram in a more effective way in order to produce higher performance. It also may be used with 128Mb cards but don't expect the same level of performance gain.

Standard Edition:
The Standard Edition is recommended for All Radeon cards. This edition is especially recommended for those users that can't use the Ultra Edition.

Installation:
Please, uninstall your previous driver before proceeding with this Installation. Please use the ATI Catalyst Uninstall Utility in order to Uninstall your current driver.

Included Utilities:
* OpenGL Driver Switcher
* RefreshForce by Gregory Maynard Hoare
* ATI Tray Tools by Ray Adams

You can download them here:
http://www.ngohq.com/home.php?page=ati

Biskit · Jul 19, 2005, 01:37 PM

Been useing them for several days now seem to work pretty well.

petri1 · Jul 19, 2005, 01:40 PM

Donwloading them now will try yhem out later on

and do some serious gaming tests
using fraps generally

so hold on and we´ll see what they can do

as many of you already know i have done some testing with cat 5.7 so you can compare the results

edit:
.................................................. .................................................. ..................................
These tests are run with what ever you can trun on

menaing
6xAA 16xAF 3xTAA trilinear optimisation on anisotropic also
A.I High

resulöts in HL2:

The benchmark started at 2005-07-19 22:47:48

Resolution: 1024×768
Demo: Custom demo - at_coast_12.dem
Detail: Custom quality
Antialising mode: From System
Filtering mode: From System
Hardware DirectX level: DirectX 9
Heapsize: 512 MB
[color=#990000]Score = 57.2 FPS

[/color]Resolution: 1280×1024
Demo: Custom demo - at_coast_12.dem
Detail: Custom quality
Antialising mode: From System
Filtering mode: From System
Hardware DirectX level: DirectX 9
Heapsize: 512 MB
[color=#990000]Score = 51.2 FPS

[/color]

Any bug, etc: [color=#0000ff]Roadside[/color]The HardwareOC Half-Life 2 Benchmarking Tool is FREE! these are with frapswith 2xAA and 8xAF

Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg

14804, 252105, 0, 130, 58.722

theese are done wtih thwe same bench app like the first test The benchmark started at 2005-07-19 22:43:57

Resolution: 1024×768
Demo: Custom demo - at_coast_12.dem
Detail: Custom quality
Antialising mode: From System
Filtering mode: From System
Hardware DirectX level: DirectX 9
Heapsize: 512 MB
[color=#990000]Score = 87.7 FPS

[/color]Resolution: 1280×1024
Demo: Custom demo - at_coast_12.dem
Detail: Custom quality
Antialising mode: From System
Filtering mode: From System
Hardware DirectX level: DirectX 9
Heapsize: 512 MB
[color=#990000]Score = 78.6 FPS

[/color]

Any bug, etc: [color=#0000ff]Roadside[/color]The HardwareOC Half-Life 2 Benchmarking Tool is FREE!
so there it is HL2 performance witn NGO 5.7´s runnin

AnakinBR · Jul 20, 2005, 03:30 AM

so petri, this driver give better perfomance or not?

Vyrticl · Jul 20, 2005, 03:36 AM

I've just added the NGO 1.5.7 drivers to my Catalyst Performance Comparison. They are very good drivers, much better than their previous 3.5.6 set. I definantly recommend trying them out.

EvaUnitXIV · Jul 20, 2005, 04:15 AM

do these have an omega-like ability to use ccc features without ccc?

Vyrticl · Jul 20, 2005, 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvaUnitXIV

do these have an omega-like ability to use ccc features without ccc?

The only 2 CCC exclusive settings you can change w/ Omegadrivers are Geometry Instancing and A.I. (which can't be changed in the latest Omega drivers). Geometry Instancing you can change in NGO and A.I. is set to Standard as default.

brutusmaximus · Jul 20, 2005, 10:34 AM

Ive had bad success with NGO drivers to date and find the best results with the dhzeropoint drivers.

Randomletters · Jul 20, 2005, 04:36 PM

Dling now just did a 3dmark2005 test with the stock 5.7s so ill have the comparasion up in a few minutes

ChoGGi · Jul 20, 2005, 04:37 PM

to enable/disable geometry instancing and a.i
read here (its a sticky too btw)
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/windows-xp-radeon-display-drivers/65478-reg-keys-enable-ai-gi-w-o-ccc.html

Randomletters · Jul 20, 2005, 05:17 PM

No luck uninstalled old drivers installed NGO's it gave me an error during the startup test about VPU recover. I ran 2005 everything was dark for a second the first test played but was dark and slow. Ill stick to ati or omegas

Biskit · Jul 20, 2005, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randomletters

No luck uninstalled old drivers installed NGO's it gave me an error during the startup test about VPU recover. I ran 2005 everything was dark for a second the first test played but was dark and slow. Ill stick to ati or omegas

Did you use driver cleaner?And do not i mean do not use the ultra mode if you
have a 128 meg card !

Now that i think about it i had the came thing happen when i tryed the ATi vannila 5.7s.

petri1 · Jul 20, 2005, 07:58 PM

well i have a X800 256mb PCI-e card but can anyone even all the modders out there say honotly taht their drivers as they come can harm a Graphicscard i mean i have heard some crazy things about modded drivers make the clocks jiump a notch just like that and the card is OC´ed.

Now that can´t be true or?

so what exactly can happen as it´s worst if i use modded drivers and keep playing as usual

by that i mean no OC´eing at all just install them as they come

so can these modded drivers hurt the card during game play i.e Doom 3 HL2 FC etc #dmark apppz aquamark all that kind of use???

i don´t belive it but i´ve heard otherwise so that is why i ask

Ðamage™ · Jul 20, 2005, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vyrticl

I've just added the NGO 1.5.7 drivers to my Catalyst Performance Comparison. They are very good drivers, much better than their previous 3.5.6 set. I definantly recommend trying them out.

I agree with vyrticl, these drivers are very solid and have great performance for myself, I would recommend the ultra driver to anyone with 128 megs or higher on their ATi card.

Cheers

AnakinBR · Jul 20, 2005, 10:08 PM

installed and i noticed a gain of 3 fps in flight simulator 2004 =)

good drivers =]

Randomletters · Jul 21, 2005, 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biskit

Did you use driver cleaner?And do not i mean do not use the ultra mode if you
have a 128 meg card !

Now that i think about it i had the came thing happen when i tryed the ATi vannila 5.7s.

I did use DC but i als think i used ultra mode, lets retry them drivers!

Randomletters · Jul 21, 2005, 02:57 AM

Stock ATI's 1551

NGO's 1527

How Do i publish my results? Their in my project manager but i can only get one piblshed at a time

Ill run a couple games but im not really going to do any more comparisons ill keep these unless i notice a considerable decline in gameplay which im sure i wont

FnF · Jul 21, 2005, 09:13 AM

Nice results, but is anyone having some results with official 5.7 vs NGO 1.5.7 in BF2?

petri1 · Jul 21, 2005, 11:14 AM

The benchmark started at 2005_07_21 11:51:12

Resolution: 800×600
Ultra quality option, Direct3D renderer
Level: Pier, demo: 1.tmd
Pixel shader: default model
Antialising: From System×
Anisotrophic filtering: From System×
HDR: disabled
Geometry Instancing: disabled
Normal-maps compression: disabled

[color=#990000]Score = 45,58 FPS

[/color]Resolution: 1024×768
Ultra quality option, Direct3D renderer
Level: Pier, demo: 1.tmd
Pixel shader: default model
Antialising: From System×
Anisotrophic filtering: From System×
HDR: disabled
Geometry Instancing: disabled
Normal-maps compression: disabled

[color=#990000]Score = 40,35 FPS

[/color]

Any bug, etc: [color=#0000ff]Roadside[/color]The HardwareOC Far Cry Benchmarking Tool is FREE! The benchmark started at 2005_07_21 12:07:41

Resolution: 800×600
Ultra quality option, Direct3D renderer
Level: Pier, demo: 1.tmd
Pixel shader: default model
Antialising: From System×
Anisotrophic filtering: From System×
HDR: disabled
Geometry Instancing: disabled
Normal-maps compression: disabled

[color=#990000]Score = 50,42 FPS

[/color]Resolution: 1024×768
Ultra quality option, Direct3D renderer
Level: Pier, demo: 1.tmd
Pixel shader: default model
Antialising: From System×
Anisotrophic filtering: From System×
HDR: disabled
Geometry Instancing: disabled
Normal-maps compression: disabled

[color=#990000]Score = 50,44 FPS

[/color]

Any bug, etc: [color=#0000ff]Roadside[/color]The HardwareOC Far Cry Benchmarking Tool is FREE!

I forgot to write that
the above results is with ATI`s Cat 5.7 CCC and the below is on NGO 5.7

so this is on a new windows install.

WhatsUpDoc · Jul 21, 2005, 09:51 PM

Hi,
I must say I never heard of these NGO drivers but I m always willing to try sth new... But I have one question though, do they support notebook cards? Or better yet in my case IGP cards? I m asking cause I cant install the latest CAT 5.6s or 5.7s (neither ATI nor Omega)...
Cheers
Whatsupdoc

UnTouchAble · Jul 21, 2005, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FnF

Nice results, but is anyone having some results with official 5.7 vs NGO 1.5.7 in BF2?

What he said

Zardon · Jul 21, 2005, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhatsUpDoc

Hi,
I must say I never heard of these NGO drivers but I m always willing to try sth new... But I have one question though, do they support notebook cards? Or better yet in my case IGP cards? I m asking cause I cant install the latest CAT 5.6s or 5.7s (neither ATI nor Omega)...
Cheers
Whatsupdoc

- Radeon Mobility IGP 9000/9100
- Radeon Mobility IGP 7000

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/patje/

Support: http://www.hardwareheaven.com/hardwareheaven-tools-discussion/70288-dh-tool-driverheaven-mobility-modder-2-2-released.html

Jul 19, 2005, 09:01 AM	#1
FnF DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 615 Rep Power: 0	NGO 1.5.7 (ATi Catalyst 5.7) Are Out! The new NGO's are out: The NGO ATI Optimized Driver is a tweaked version of the ATI Catalyst driver. The main purpose is to satisfy the users with a better performance and better image quality. The Driver has support for all Radeon cards. Changes: * Updated base to Catalyst 5.7 * Added Ultra Edition * Added support for more cards * Updated OpenGL Driver Switcher Ultra Edition: The Ultra Edition is optimized for cards with 256Mb or more. It uses the ram in a more effective way in order to produce higher performance. It also may be used with 128Mb cards but don't expect the same level of performance gain. Standard Edition: The Standard Edition is recommended for All Radeon cards. This edition is especially recommended for those users that can't use the Ultra Edition. Installation: Please, uninstall your previous driver before proceeding with this Installation. Please use the ATI Catalyst Uninstall Utility in order to Uninstall your current driver. Included Utilities: * OpenGL Driver Switcher * RefreshForce by Gregory Maynard Hoare * ATI Tray Tools by Ray Adams You can download them here: http://www.ngohq.com/home.php?page=ati

Jul 19, 2005, 01:40 PM	#3
petri1 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 746 Rep Power: 0	Donwloading them now will try yhem out later on and do some serious gaming tests using fraps generally so hold on and we´ll see what they can do as many of you already know i have done some testing with cat 5.7 so you can compare the results edit: .................................................. .................................................. .................................. These tests are run with what ever you can trun on menaing 6xAA 16xAF 3xTAA trilinear optimisation on anisotropic also A.I High resulöts in HL2: The benchmark started at 2005-07-19 22:47:48 Resolution: 1024×768 Demo: Custom demo - at_coast_12.dem Detail: Custom quality Antialising mode: From System Filtering mode: From System Hardware DirectX level: DirectX 9 Heapsize: 512 MB [color=#990000]Score = 57.2 FPS [/color]Resolution: 1280×1024 Demo: Custom demo - at_coast_12.dem Detail: Custom quality Antialising mode: From System Filtering mode: From System Hardware DirectX level: DirectX 9 Heapsize: 512 MB [color=#990000]Score = 51.2 FPS [/color] Any bug, etc: [color=#0000ff]Roadside[/color]The HardwareOC Half-Life 2 Benchmarking Tool is FREE! these are with frapswith 2xAA and 8xAF Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg 14804, 252105, 0, 130, 58.722 theese are done wtih thwe same bench app like the first test The benchmark started at 2005-07-19 22:43:57 Resolution: 1024×768 Demo: Custom demo - at_coast_12.dem Detail: Custom quality Antialising mode: From System Filtering mode: From System Hardware DirectX level: DirectX 9 Heapsize: 512 MB [color=#990000]Score = 87.7 FPS [/color]Resolution: 1280×1024 Demo: Custom demo - at_coast_12.dem Detail: Custom quality Antialising mode: From System Filtering mode: From System Hardware DirectX level: DirectX 9 Heapsize: 512 MB [color=#990000]Score = 78.6 FPS [/color] Any bug, etc: [color=#0000ff]Roadside[/color]The HardwareOC Half-Life 2 Benchmarking Tool is FREE! so there it is HL2 performance witn NGO 5.7´s runnin __________________ [COLOR=#232d35] [COLOR=Red]Intel Core 2 Quad 9450@2,66GHZ PowerColor Ati Radeon HD4870 512mb Gigabyte GaE-X38 4GB Kingston Hyper X [/COLOR] [/COLOR] Last edited by petri1; Jul 19, 2005 at 09:58 PM.

Jul 20, 2005, 03:36 AM	#5
Vyrticl DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Utah, USA Posts: 43 Rep Power: 0	I've just added the NGO 1.5.7 drivers to my Catalyst Performance Comparison. They are very good drivers, much better than their previous 3.5.6 set. I definantly recommend trying them out. __________________ The Whistling Cricket Tweaking Restaurant If it ain't broke, tweak it!

Jul 20, 2005, 04:15 AM	#6
EvaUnitXIV DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 229 Rep Power: 0	do these have an omega-like ability to use ccc features without ccc? __________________ AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Abit KV8 Buffalo 2x512mb PC3200 ram 40GB Maxtor 7200rpm HD (Boot) 2x250GB WD SE 8mb Cache 7200rpm HD (Filedump) Benq 1620 Pro Liteon 1635s x800GTO @ x800XL SB Audigy Gamer WinXp Pro /w Sp2

Jul 20, 2005, 04:37 PM	#10
ChoGGi DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,209 Rep Power: 0	to enable/disable geometry instancing and a.i read here (its a sticky too btw) http://www.hardwareheaven.com/windows-xp-radeon-display-drivers/65478-reg-keys-enable-ai-gi-w-o-ccc.html __________________ specs Common Problems and Fixes for your Radeon

Jul 19, 2005, 01:37 PM	#2
Biskit DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 13 Rep Power: 0	Been useing them for several days now seem to work pretty well.

Jul 20, 2005, 03:30 AM	#4
AnakinBR DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	so petri, this driver give better perfomance or not?

Jul 20, 2005, 10:34 AM	#8
brutusmaximus DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 520 Rep Power: 76	Ive had bad success with NGO drivers to date and find the best results with the dhzeropoint drivers.

Jul 20, 2005, 04:36 PM	#9
Randomletters ))<>(( Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,418 Rep Power: 54	Dling now just did a 3dmark2005 test with the stock 5.7s so ill have the comparasion up in a few minutes __________________ <----------- Sexy Budget Rig stats to the left.

Jul 20, 2005, 05:17 PM	#11
Randomletters ))<>(( Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,418 Rep Power: 54	No luck uninstalled old drivers installed NGO's it gave me an error during the startup test about VPU recover. I ran 2005 everything was dark for a second the first test played but was dark and slow. Ill stick to ati or omegas __________________ <----------- Sexy Budget Rig stats to the left.

Jul 20, 2005, 07:58 PM	#13
petri1 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 746 Rep Power: 0	well i have a X800 256mb PCI-e card but can anyone even all the modders out there say honotly taht their drivers as they come can harm a Graphicscard i mean i have heard some crazy things about modded drivers make the clocks jiump a notch just like that and the card is OC´ed. Now that can´t be true or? so what exactly can happen as it´s worst if i use modded drivers and keep playing as usual by that i mean no OC´eing at all just install them as they come so can these modded drivers hurt the card during game play i.e Doom 3 HL2 FC etc #dmark apppz aquamark all that kind of use??? i don´t belive it but i´ve heard otherwise so that is why i ask __________________ [COLOR=#232d35] [COLOR=Red]Intel Core 2 Quad 9450@2,66GHZ PowerColor Ati Radeon HD4870 512mb Gigabyte GaE-X38 4GB Kingston Hyper X [/COLOR] [/COLOR]

Jul 20, 2005, 10:08 PM	#15
AnakinBR DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	installed and i noticed a gain of 3 fps in flight simulator 2004 =) good drivers =]

Jul 21, 2005, 02:57 AM	#17
Randomletters ))<>(( Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,418 Rep Power: 54	Stock ATI's 1551 NGO's 1527 How Do i publish my results? Their in my project manager but i can only get one piblshed at a time Ill run a couple games but im not really going to do any more comparisons ill keep these unless i notice a considerable decline in gameplay which im sure i wont __________________ <----------- Sexy Budget Rig stats to the left.

Jul 21, 2005, 09:13 AM	Thread Starter #18
FnF DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 615 Rep Power: 0	Nice results, but is anyone having some results with official 5.7 vs NGO 1.5.7 in BF2?

Jul 21, 2005, 11:14 AM	#19
petri1 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 746 Rep Power: 0	The benchmark started at 2005_07_21 11:51:12 Resolution: 800×600 Ultra quality option, Direct3D renderer Level: Pier, demo: 1.tmd Pixel shader: default model Antialising: From System× Anisotrophic filtering: From System× HDR: disabled Geometry Instancing: disabled Normal-maps compression: disabled [color=#990000]Score = 45,58 FPS [/color]Resolution: 1024×768 Ultra quality option, Direct3D renderer Level: Pier, demo: 1.tmd Pixel shader: default model Antialising: From System× Anisotrophic filtering: From System× HDR: disabled Geometry Instancing: disabled Normal-maps compression: disabled [color=#990000]Score = 40,35 FPS [/color] Any bug, etc: [color=#0000ff]Roadside[/color]The HardwareOC Far Cry Benchmarking Tool is FREE! The benchmark started at 2005_07_21 12:07:41 Resolution: 800×600 Ultra quality option, Direct3D renderer Level: Pier, demo: 1.tmd Pixel shader: default model Antialising: From System× Anisotrophic filtering: From System× HDR: disabled Geometry Instancing: disabled Normal-maps compression: disabled [color=#990000]Score = 50,42 FPS [/color]Resolution: 1024×768 Ultra quality option, Direct3D renderer Level: Pier, demo: 1.tmd Pixel shader: default model Antialising: From System× Anisotrophic filtering: From System× HDR: disabled Geometry Instancing: disabled Normal-maps compression: disabled [color=#990000]Score = 50,44 FPS [/color] Any bug, etc: [color=#0000ff]Roadside[/color]The HardwareOC Far Cry Benchmarking Tool is FREE! I forgot to write that the above results is with ATI`s Cat 5.7 CCC and the below is on NGO 5.7 so this is on a new windows install. __________________ [COLOR=#232d35] [COLOR=Red]Intel Core 2 Quad 9450@2,66GHZ PowerColor Ati Radeon HD4870 512mb Gigabyte GaE-X38 4GB Kingston Hyper X [/COLOR] [/COLOR] Last edited by petri1; Jul 21, 2005 at 01:12 PM.

Jul 21, 2005, 09:51 PM	#20
WhatsUpDoc DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 26 Rep Power: 0	notebook support? Hi, I must say I never heard of these NGO drivers but I m always willing to try sth new... But I have one question though, do they support notebook cards? Or better yet in my case IGP cards? I m asking cause I cant install the latest CAT 5.6s or 5.7s (neither ATI nor Omega)... Cheers Whatsupdoc __________________ Compaq Pressario 2529EU P4 M 2,8 Ghz 512 MB RAM ATI Radeon IGP 345M 128MB 60GB HDD, DVD+RW