ATI Tray Tools Advanced Tweaks.

*Ray Adams* · Jul 26, 2005, 08:06 PM

For thouse lazzy guyz who knows nothing about search engines and so on.
here is a small FAQ and a few descriptions about ATI Tray Tools Adavnced tweaks.
http://atitray.fangel.ru/viewtopic.php?t=44
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Stop asking me about full explanation!!! Look at the caption of Advanced Tweaks window! Advanced Registry Tweaks. This is just editor for external tweaks database files located in Database folder!

petri1 · Jul 26, 2005, 11:08 PM

no worrys MR Ray A. i use the different profiles in Omegas new drivers and i only play with standard tweaks and D3D settings nothin else

UnTouchAble · Jul 27, 2005, 10:46 AM

Thx for the info Rey!

(/me Doesnt touch advanced tweaks! :P)

*Ray Adams* · Jul 27, 2005, 01:08 PM

Can moderators pin this topic please?

Omegadrive · Jul 27, 2005, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray Adams

Can moderators pin this topic please?

I did

petri1 · Jul 27, 2005, 08:15 PM

omegadrive

if i run my comp using benchmark ortion adn add in the "usual" CP som FSAA will it still perform good with some nice graphics or will it disable the benchmark option

and second running it with that option can that alone damage my X800 GFX card???

Omegadrive · Jul 28, 2005, 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petri1

omegadrive

if i run my comp using benchmark ortion adn add in the "usual" CP som FSAA will it still perform good with some nice graphics or will it disable the benchmark option

and second running it with that option can that alone damage my X800 GFX card???

Any changes made to the ATI CP reguarding quality levels will disable the benchmark profile since the profiles just play with the different quality settings, so by adding FSAA or Aniso u are in fact NOT running in the fastest mode possible (ultra low quality graphics) for benchmarks.

The Benchmark profile was NOT created to play games with it, was just created for those that want to get the highest scores in synthetic benchmarks and don't care about the quality, the way to play games is with Normal quality and above, even the low quality is reserved for very slow old ATI cards that want a little more juice.

petri1 · Jul 28, 2005, 08:20 AM

Thank you Omega now i know what way to bench my machine and what to use in games

but there was another question.

can any of the 3d profiles harm my card?

because i ma undet the impression that only overclocking can harm a card

i never heard of drivers that can do it

am i wrong?

~~homeboye~~ · Jul 28, 2005, 10:07 AM

Omegadrive:
any news on boot screen garbling? O.o

Aligokalppeker · Jul 28, 2005, 01:00 PM

Omegadrive
I read that with the new DNA driver release(based on Cats 5.7),card specific tweaks are added to set.I think it'll be good also new omega drivers provide such properties,,,what do you think about this?

Omegadrive · Jul 29, 2005, 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petri1

Thank you Omega now i know what way to bench my machine and what to use in games

but there was another question.

can any of the 3d profiles harm my card?

because i ma undet the impression that only overclocking can harm a card

i never heard of drivers that can do it

am i wrong?

Only Overclocking can harm a card, not a 3D profile, also, my profiles play with the basic detail settings of the card, any other profile from another source may have additional settings.

Quote:

Originally Posted by homeboye

Omegadrive:
any news on boot screen garbling? O.o

I have not seen this happen yet, u using the soft-mods?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aligokalppeker

Omegadrive
I read that with the new DNA driver release(based on Cats 5.7),card specific tweaks are added to set.I think it'll be good also new omega drivers provide such properties,,,what do you think about this?

I've had that in my drivers for years, is just that I don't boast about it

Aligokalppeker · Jul 29, 2005, 08:12 AM

Good man,so omegadrivers have card specific tweaks ! It's very well...

JimmyT · Aug 1, 2005, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omegadrive

The Benchmark profile was NOT created to play games with it, was just created for those that want to get the highest scores in synthetic benchmarks and don't care about the quality, the way to play games is with Normal quality and above, even the low quality is reserved for very slow old ATI cards that want a little more juice.

If that's the case, then why my performance drops at 50% when I select the Benchmark setting? I have 39000 points on Aquamark3 at Normal Quality profile, and it drops to 22000 points at Benchmark profile. (Radeon 9800 405/338).
Also, Omegas based on 5.4 gave me ~41000 points.

kanko · Aug 4, 2005, 01:01 PM

Quote:

I have not seen this happen yet, u using the soft-mods?

i know that you were asking homeboye this but i, among other ppl, have the same problem.
i am using retail 9600, with no mods, what so ever.
also i do not have ati tools installed or any other of that kind program.
the 'screen garbling' was happening from smthn like 5.5 and on.
thank you.

Gold333 · Aug 4, 2005, 08:22 PM

Omega please read:

An additional issue with the Omega 5.7's was this:

1. On a standard install of Omega 5.7, if you go into the CP, you notice Anisotropic is not set to "Application Preference" but to "performance" this indicates a less than optimum default.

So one sets it to "Application Preference". But is this faster than Omega's invisible special tweak? I don't know.

2. Another issue with Omega 5.7 is that the new Ati Tray tools installs with Trilinear Optimizations and Anisotropic Optimizations defaulted to OFF? Why?

Does enabling them slow down Omega performance?

thanks Omega!

*Ray Adams* · Aug 4, 2005, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Does enabling them slow down Omega performance?

Not of course, if will speed up rendering with AF and Trilinear enabled, but you will lost some quality.

Gold333 · Aug 5, 2005, 06:16 PM

In BF2: There are 3 settings for texture filtering, low/medium/high. (probably tri/2x/4x)

low has a glitch where there are white spots under 3d objects (trees) at long distance.

On medium and high textures are good.

I mention this because when I enable both AF and TRI optimizations in ATI Tray, I get the white spots, no matter if I choose low/med or high.

?

Callous · Aug 24, 2005, 05:58 AM

Is there any chance that future versions of ATI Tray Tools can create a shortcut which contains all the AA/AF/overclocking settings, and the shortcut can then launch the game without loading up ATI Tray Tools?

This would save system memory for some games which now really require closer to 1 gig of ram than what is specified on the box..

*Ray Adams* · Aug 24, 2005, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Is there any chance that future versions of ATI Tray Tools can create a shortcut which contains all the AA/AF/overclocking settings, and the shortcut can then launch the game without loading up ATI Tray Tools?

Its aready done. Read readme.txt

Quote:

This would save system memory for some games

ATT takes not more than 2-5Mb of RAM this is less than some system services.

FnF · Aug 24, 2005, 06:21 PM

About this Advanced Tweaks, you wrote some things to some of them, but do we need to enabled them all? So which one do we need to switch on, and which one not?
Thnx!

*Ray Adams* · Aug 24, 2005, 07:04 PM

Never touch Adavnced Tweaks if you don't know what are you doing or you can broke you board!

Most of them only for debug purpose. Some times it can help to fix strange errors. If you don't strange errors , forget about it

tech.Me · Aug 24, 2005, 09:38 PM

God you guys, this is not an Omega driver thread.

Great job Ray Adams. Keep up the good work. Hope to see more releases...

Oh, btw, any "recommanded" tweaks in the Advance tweaks interface?

UnTouchAble · Aug 24, 2005, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tech.Me

any "recommanded" tweaks in the Advance tweaks interface?

I'd also like to know this.

FnF · Aug 25, 2005, 12:42 PM

No, I know, but what I mean is, indeed, what are the recommended tweaks, we can enable. You wrote on the page that we need to enable everything from the fog section needs to be enabled, but what about the other tweaks. You wrote something very nice by some settings, but we still don't know what to enable and what to disabled for performance, IQ, etc

Thnx!

*Ray Adams* · Aug 25, 2005, 06:45 PM

I can not say more that I know

And I aready provided some basic recomendations.

ronnn · Sep 2, 2005, 07:46 AM

Silly question, is there a way to have preset fan speeds automatic on startup?

Also I am having some lockups when playing with the control panel?

kelticknight · Sep 2, 2005, 08:09 AM

one question ray

some time ago,l used the ati tray tools and for some reason some games wouldn't load up or play,never changed the settings of ati tray tools,at time had to unstall it to play them,

kelticknight · Sep 2, 2005, 08:10 AM

did you ever have this complant,if so is it fixed now

*Ray Adams* · Sep 2, 2005, 11:14 AM

Quote:

some time ago,l used the ati tray tools and for some reason some games wouldn't load up or play,never changed the settings of ati tray tools,at time had to unstall it to play them,

Fixed ages ago

kelticknight · Sep 2, 2005, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray Adams

Fixed ages ago

cheers

Jul 26, 2005, 08:06 PM	#1
Ray Adams DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: USSR Posts: 350 Rep Power: 0	ATI Tray Tools Advanced Tweaks. For thouse lazzy guyz who knows nothing about search engines and so on. here is a small FAQ and a few descriptions about ATI Tray Tools Adavnced tweaks. http://atitray.fangel.ru/viewtopic.php?t=44 ______________ Stop asking me about full explanation!!! Look at the caption of Advanced Tweaks window! Advanced Registry Tweaks. This is just editor for external tweaks database files located in Database folder! __________________ ATI Tray Tools

Jul 26, 2005, 11:08 PM	#2
petri1 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 746 Rep Power: 0	no worrys MR Ray A. i use the different profiles in Omegas new drivers and i only play with standard tweaks and D3D settings nothin else __________________ [COLOR=#232d35] [COLOR=Red]Intel Core 2 Quad 9450@2,66GHZ PowerColor Ati Radeon HD4870 512mb Gigabyte GaE-X38 4GB Kingston Hyper X [/COLOR] [/COLOR]

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Jul 27, 2005, 08:15 PM	#6
petri1 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 746 Rep Power: 0	omegadrive if i run my comp using benchmark ortion adn add in the "usual" CP som FSAA will it still perform good with some nice graphics or will it disable the benchmark option and second running it with that option can that alone damage my X800 GFX card??? __________________ [COLOR=#232d35] [COLOR=Red]Intel Core 2 Quad 9450@2,66GHZ PowerColor Ati Radeon HD4870 512mb Gigabyte GaE-X38 4GB Kingston Hyper X [/COLOR] [/COLOR]

Jul 28, 2005, 08:20 AM	#8
petri1 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 746 Rep Power: 0	Thank you Omega now i know what way to bench my machine and what to use in games but there was another question. can any of the 3d profiles harm my card? because i ma undet the impression that only overclocking can harm a card i never heard of drivers that can do it am i wrong? __________________ [COLOR=#232d35] [COLOR=Red]Intel Core 2 Quad 9450@2,66GHZ PowerColor Ati Radeon HD4870 512mb Gigabyte GaE-X38 4GB Kingston Hyper X [/COLOR] [/COLOR]

Jul 27, 2005, 10:46 AM	#3
UnTouchAble DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: S-O-T Posts: 342 Rep Power: 0	Thx for the info Rey! (/me Doesnt touch advanced tweaks! :P)

Jul 28, 2005, 10:07 AM	#9
~~homeboye~~ Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 44 Rep Power: 0	Omegadrive: any news on boot screen garbling? O.o

Jul 28, 2005, 01:00 PM	#10
Aligokalppeker DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: TR Posts: 184 Rep Power: 0	Omegadrive I read that with the new DNA driver release(based on Cats 5.7),card specific tweaks are added to set.I think it'll be good also new omega drivers provide such properties,,,what do you think about this?

Jul 29, 2005, 08:12 AM	#12
Aligokalppeker DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: TR Posts: 184 Rep Power: 0	Good man,so omegadrivers have card specific tweaks ! It's very well...

Aug 4, 2005, 08:22 PM	#15
Gold333 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 33 Rep Power: 0	Omega please read: An additional issue with the Omega 5.7's was this: 1. On a standard install of Omega 5.7, if you go into the CP, you notice Anisotropic is not set to "Application Preference" but to "performance" this indicates a less than optimum default. So one sets it to "Application Preference". But is this faster than Omega's invisible special tweak? I don't know. 2. Another issue with Omega 5.7 is that the new Ati Tray tools installs with Trilinear Optimizations and Anisotropic Optimizations defaulted to OFF? Why? Does enabling them slow down Omega performance? thanks Omega!

Aug 5, 2005, 06:16 PM	#17
Gold333 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 33 Rep Power: 0	In BF2: There are 3 settings for texture filtering, low/medium/high. (probably tri/2x/4x) low has a glitch where there are white spots under 3d objects (trees) at long distance. On medium and high textures are good. I mention this because when I enable both AF and TRI optimizations in ATI Tray, I get the white spots, no matter if I choose low/med or high. ?

Aug 24, 2005, 05:58 AM	#18
Callous DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	Is there any chance that future versions of ATI Tray Tools can create a shortcut which contains all the AA/AF/overclocking settings, and the shortcut can then launch the game without loading up ATI Tray Tools? This would save system memory for some games which now really require closer to 1 gig of ram than what is specified on the box..

Aug 24, 2005, 06:21 PM	#20
FnF DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 615 Rep Power: 0	About this Advanced Tweaks, you wrote some things to some of them, but do we need to enabled them all? So which one do we need to switch on, and which one not? Thnx! __________________ DH and ATI rock!!!!!!!!!!

Aug 24, 2005, 07:04 PM	#21
Ray Adams DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: USSR Posts: 350 Rep Power: 0	Never touch Adavnced Tweaks if you don't know what are you doing or you can broke you board! Most of them only for debug purpose. Some times it can help to fix strange errors. If you don't strange errors , forget about it __________________ ATI Tray Tools

Aug 24, 2005, 09:38 PM	#22
tech.Me DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 139 Rep Power: 0	God you guys, this is not an Omega driver thread. Great job Ray Adams. Keep up the good work. Hope to see more releases... Oh, btw, any "recommanded" tweaks in the Advance tweaks interface? __________________ AMD Athlon XP 2400+ \| Windows XP Pro \| ATI 9600XT 128MB \| Samsung 120GB 5400RPM \| Saitek Cyborg Evo

Aug 25, 2005, 12:42 PM	#24
FnF DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 615 Rep Power: 0	No, I know, but what I mean is, indeed, what are the recommended tweaks, we can enable. You wrote on the page that we need to enable everything from the fog section needs to be enabled, but what about the other tweaks. You wrote something very nice by some settings, but we still don't know what to enable and what to disabled for performance, IQ, etc Thnx! __________________ DH and ATI rock!!!!!!!!!!

Aug 25, 2005, 06:45 PM	#25
Ray Adams DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: USSR Posts: 350 Rep Power: 0	I can not say more that I know And I aready provided some basic recomendations. __________________ ATI Tray Tools

Sep 2, 2005, 07:46 AM	#26
ronnn DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 617 Rep Power: 0	Silly question, is there a way to have preset fan speeds automatic on startup? Also I am having some lockups when playing with the control panel?

Sep 2, 2005, 08:09 AM	#27
kelticknight DriverHeaven Knight Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: EIRE{great for black stuff ,bulmers cider and Munster rubgy Posts: 1,093 Rep Power: 0	one question ray some time ago,l used the ati tray tools and for some reason some games wouldn't load up or play,never changed the settings of ati tray tools,at time had to unstall it to play them, __________________

Sep 2, 2005, 08:10 AM	#28
kelticknight DriverHeaven Knight Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: EIRE{great for black stuff ,bulmers cider and Munster rubgy Posts: 1,093 Rep Power: 0	did you ever have this complant,if so is it fixed now __________________