Getting FF7 to work with X600

makken · Aug 30, 2005, 05:23 AM

hi guys,

I'm at my wit's end at trying to get FF7 to work correctly on ATi cards. Right now, I've installed the WindowsXP patch and the game runs perfectly under software mode, but I can't seem to get Direct3D rendering to work. I know there's a patch for nVidia cards, but ATi's seem to be out of luck.

The game is really choppy under software mode, otherwise I would just suck it up and play it that way.

Any idea's on what I can do?
I really want to replay this old classic.

shadowfield · Aug 30, 2005, 05:56 AM

I believe you can apply the nvidia patch, and then select one of the new options that will come up, but maybe not, its been awhile since i played the PC version

but your not going to get the 8-bit bla bla bla textures to work with an ati card because its not supported in the drivers, just fyi

makken · Aug 30, 2005, 03:11 PM

I tried the nVidia patch, and both the TNT and the RIVA128 options let me render in Direct3D, but I lose the 2D background (I have floating models on a black screen)

Tipstaff · Aug 31, 2005, 07:21 AM

Check out the 1.02 patch on THIS site. Make sure to follow the instructions, especially relating to the GRU32.DLL error.

blubb² · Sep 1, 2005, 12:33 PM

Does this enable you to play the game with AA without grafical glitches? (runs into basement and searches for FF7)

The_Neon_Cowboy · Sep 1, 2005, 01:11 PM

wow a 1998 game! before radeon or geforce, when NV TNT, ATI RAGE, and vodoo were kings !

makken · Sep 1, 2005, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tipstaff

Check out the 1.02 patch on THIS site. Make sure to follow the instructions, especially relating to the GRU32.DLL error.

Hrmm, the GRU32.dll link seems to be broken, and a google search for it shows no results

I'm pretty sure that was the same patch I was using to get the "models on a black background" problem.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Neon_Cowboy

wow a 1998 game! before radeon or geforce, when NV TNT, ATI RAGE, and vodoo were kings !

...yeah... and your point is?

Perfect Reason · Sep 1, 2005, 10:44 PM

Ok, I found the file.
Searched abit and found this thread
http://www.zebolt.com/printthread.php?t=5

And if u read that site, it links to this part of the site where u can downlaod the dll's.
http://www.zebolt.com/showthread.php?t=6

Enjoy

makken · Sep 2, 2005, 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfect Reason

Ok, I found the file.
Searched abit and found this thread
http://www.zebolt.com/printthread.php?t=5

And if u read that site, it links to this part of the site where u can downlaod the dll's.
http://www.zebolt.com/showthread.php?t=6

Enjoy

I LOVE YOU!!!!

Still getting some artifacts (see attached) but at least it's playable now!!

shadowfield · Sep 2, 2005, 02:04 AM

If i remember correctly, those artifacts are caused by either AA or AF. If you can deal with the artifacts on prerendered scenes, AA makes battles look alot better

Perfect Reason · Sep 2, 2005, 03:20 AM

I also got those artifacts, but when i switched to TNT instead of Riva128, They were gone

The_Neon_Cowboy · Sep 2, 2005, 05:51 AM

I'd be glad that it plays at all. There is also a program to try to help
you run old games like that. Um... let me think.... I forgot but you need
an emulator... might try some from here

http://www.zophar.net/windos.phtml
http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/news.php?show_news=1

but you will need to find a good emmulator to get it working right. Just how
it goes with very, very, very, old games like that.....

makken · Sep 2, 2005, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadowfield

If i remember correctly, those artifacts are caused by either AA or AF. If you can deal with the artifacts on prerendered scenes, AA makes battles look alot better

AA and AF are off via CCC, so I don't think that's the problem... But I'm definately going to turn AA on the next time I play it (I remember the last time I played FF7 was after I got my Voodoo5 5500 and it was beautiful with 4xFSAA)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfect Reason

I also got those artifacts, but when i switched to TNT instead of Riva128, They were gone

Will try that the next time I play; thanks a lot

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Neon_Cowboy

I'd be glad that it plays at all. There is also a program to try to help
you run old games like that. Um... let me think.... I forgot but you need
an emulator... might try some from here

http://www.zophar.net/windos.phtml
http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/news.php?show_news=1

but you will need to find a good emmulator to get it working right. Just how
it goes with very, very, very, old games like that.....

Now now, FF7 isn't THAT old; but I might try that to get Space Invaders or Space quest working again

Just gotta find a 5.25 floppy reader....

Thanks everyone for their help!

The_Neon_Cowboy · Sep 2, 2005, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makken

Now now, FF7 isn't THAT old; but I might try that to get Space Invaders or Space quest working again

Just gotta find a 5.25 floppy reader....

Thanks everyone for their help!

1998 is ver very old, in compter years (3 for every one) it's even older!
old games like thast were never meant to run on todays hardware that why
you need an emmulator.

makken · Sep 2, 2005, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Neon_Cowboy

1998 is ver very old, in compter years (3 for every one) it's even older!
old games like thast were never meant to run on todays hardware that why
you need an emmulator.

it's around the same time as Half Life 1 and StarCraft.. I'm sure there are still people around here that play those games. And I"m sure those run without emmulators

blubb² · Sep 5, 2005, 01:12 PM

Just wanted to say thanks for these tips. Runs and looks great with 16xAF (but AA sucks).

Perfect Reason · Sep 5, 2005, 02:38 PM

Yeah, U cant use AA

But doesnt really matter though. hehe

Dem2k · Sep 9, 2005, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfect Reason

Yeah, U cant use AA

But doesnt really matter though. hehe

Or can you? :P
Final Fantasy VII PC - Its been Modded :P , mods used, musicpatch, Reunion, and Saints High Res patch in which AA does work.

First shot is just to show off the models really, you can clearly see AA in action in the SS the first boss!

Prince_Link · Sep 9, 2005, 01:50 PM

the same can be done for FF8 pc,.. all you need is the 1.1 patch and you can mod it with high polygon packs

Perfect Reason · Sep 9, 2005, 03:23 PM

Dem2k. Wanna share the links to those patches?

blubb² · Sep 9, 2005, 04:13 PM

actually the patch can be found in the links you supplied on the first page

works great: http://forums.qhimm.com/viewtopic.php?t=3203

Dem2k · Sep 9, 2005, 04:15 PM

Sure, but you should follow this thread here. Which is a useful guide to setting all the Reunion's Mod up, I at least found it very helpful.

You'll need 5 files in order to use/mod the game, 1st is the FF7 TnT patch which you can find a link on the thread linked above. LGP tools, the music patch and Reunions Mod, and Saints awesome Hi res Patch, which AA works on ATI cards, I don't have an Nvidia card but Im guessing they work all the same.

Music Patch is found here
LGP Tools here
Reunion's Mod here
Finally the Saints Hiresmod is found here

There is however a trick into fooling the FF7.exe so you get both the music patch and the Hi res patch to work, you must first, patch the game up using the TnT .exe patch files, then follow that by patching the exe with Saints Hi Res patch, then just patch the music using Centra.exe, which is explained in the "readme" of the music patch rar file.

Bare in mind though these mods are either Beta, or just really not intended to look or work right, in certain area's of the game. But in my experiance It works well enough and allows me to enjoy the game even more.

Have fun

riles9262 · Sep 9, 2005, 06:55 PM

Sweet, you guys are awesome...between this an the dh zeropoints, I guess my night is planned

Perfect Reason · Sep 9, 2005, 07:42 PM

Yeah, After i posted the post on where to get it, I googled it up myself

Found it, read all the posts, and got it to work myself

And baby does it look awesome!!!. The only thing i didnt do was the music patch.
I have it downloaded, But is it really that much better?

riles9262 · Sep 9, 2005, 09:33 PM

So when is the reunion mod loaded in your opinion? Just before the saint's hires? And is this the tnt patch that you were speaking of? Thanks.

Edit, nm, got it working

riles9262 · Sep 10, 2005, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfect Reason

Yeah, After i posted the post on where to get it, I googled it up myself

Found it, read all the posts, and got it to work myself

And baby does it look awesome!!!. The only thing i didnt do was the music patch.
I have it downloaded, But is it really that much better?

After getting everything squared away, it really is many times better than the original release graphics wise. As for that sound patch...absolutely YES! It's so much crisper and the quality is excellent compared to the half assed midi sound. Just remember to change your midi player in ffconfig to something other than the ms sync for midi, or you'll get echoing music like me (since it was playing both mp3 and midi at the same time)

~~Sanafabich~~ · Sep 10, 2005, 09:58 PM

3dfx rules!!!

Dem2k · Sep 11, 2005, 02:28 AM

It gets rid of the midi and basicly adds the psx music to the game, I've modded mine though. Most of the orginal psf files are replaced to some of the Black Mages ff7 tracks.

/riles is that sig Off the trailer park boys? Man that show is well funny.

Aug 30, 2005, 05:23 AM	#1
makken DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	Getting FF7 to work with X600 hi guys, I'm at my wit's end at trying to get FF7 to work correctly on ATi cards. Right now, I've installed the WindowsXP patch and the game runs perfectly under software mode, but I can't seem to get Direct3D rendering to work. I know there's a patch for nVidia cards, but ATi's seem to be out of luck. The game is really choppy under software mode, otherwise I would just suck it up and play it that way. Any idea's on what I can do? I really want to replay this old classic.

Aug 31, 2005, 07:21 AM	#4
Tipstaff HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Real capital of Canada: Toronto Posts: 5,815 Rep Power: 133	Check out the 1.02 patch on THIS site. Make sure to follow the instructions, especially relating to the GRU32.DLL error. __________________ >><<

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The_Neon_Cowboy DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,004 Rep Power: 81	wow a 1998 game! before radeon or geforce, when NV TNT, ATI RAGE, and vodoo were kings ! __________________

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Perfect Reason DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Norway, Oslo Posts: 69 Rep Power: 0	Ok, I found the file. Searched abit and found this thread http://www.zebolt.com/printthread.php?t=5 And if u read that site, it links to this part of the site where u can downlaod the dll's. http://www.zebolt.com/showthread.php?t=6 Enjoy __________________ [Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4Ghz Conroe \w Zalman 9500 AT] - [Gigabyte GA-965P-DQ6] \| [WD HD 150GB 16mb Raptor] - [WD HD 400GB 16mb Caviar] - [Aerocool ExtremeEngine 3T Black] - [Aerocool 550W Turbine Power] - [Creative SB X-Fi Fatal1ty FPS] - [Geil 2GB PC6400 DDR2] - [XFX 7950GX2 520M, 1GB, Extreme] - [BenQ FP937+ 19"] - [Razor DiamondBack] 3Dmark 03: 34641 - 3Dmark 06: 8672 - Stock Temps: CPU: 35c GPU: 52c - Clocked Temps: N\A. Last edited by Perfect Reason; Sep 1, 2005 at 10:54 PM.

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Perfect Reason DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Norway, Oslo Posts: 69 Rep Power: 0	I also got those artifacts, but when i switched to TNT instead of Riva128, They were gone __________________ [Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4Ghz Conroe \w Zalman 9500 AT] - [Gigabyte GA-965P-DQ6] \| [WD HD 150GB 16mb Raptor] - [WD HD 400GB 16mb Caviar] - [Aerocool ExtremeEngine 3T Black] - [Aerocool 550W Turbine Power] - [Creative SB X-Fi Fatal1ty FPS] - [Geil 2GB PC6400 DDR2] - [XFX 7950GX2 520M, 1GB, Extreme] - [BenQ FP937+ 19"] - [Razor DiamondBack] 3Dmark 03: 34641 - 3Dmark 06: 8672 - Stock Temps: CPU: 35c GPU: 52c - Clocked Temps: N\A.

Aug 30, 2005, 05:56 AM	#2
shadowfield DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 117 Rep Power: 0	I believe you can apply the nvidia patch, and then select one of the new options that will come up, but maybe not, its been awhile since i played the PC version but your not going to get the 8-bit bla bla bla textures to work with an ati card because its not supported in the drivers, just fyi

Aug 30, 2005, 03:11 PM	#3
makken DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	I tried the nVidia patch, and both the TNT and the RIVA128 options let me render in Direct3D, but I lose the 2D background (I have floating models on a black screen)

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blubb² DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 30 Rep Power: 0	Does this enable you to play the game with AA without grafical glitches? (runs into basement and searches for FF7)

Sep 2, 2005, 02:04 AM	#10
shadowfield DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 117 Rep Power: 0	If i remember correctly, those artifacts are caused by either AA or AF. If you can deal with the artifacts on prerendered scenes, AA makes battles look alot better

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The_Neon_Cowboy DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,004 Rep Power: 81	I'd be glad that it plays at all. There is also a program to try to help you run old games like that. Um... let me think.... I forgot but you need an emulator... might try some from here http://www.zophar.net/windos.phtml http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/news.php?show_news=1 but you will need to find a good emmulator to get it working right. Just how it goes with very, very, very, old games like that..... __________________

Sep 5, 2005, 01:12 PM	#16
blubb² DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 30 Rep Power: 0	Just wanted to say thanks for these tips. Runs and looks great with 16xAF (but AA sucks).

Sep 5, 2005, 02:38 PM	#17
Perfect Reason DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Norway, Oslo Posts: 69 Rep Power: 0	Yeah, U cant use AA But doesnt really matter though. hehe __________________ [Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4Ghz Conroe \w Zalman 9500 AT] - [Gigabyte GA-965P-DQ6] \| [WD HD 150GB 16mb Raptor] - [WD HD 400GB 16mb Caviar] - [Aerocool ExtremeEngine 3T Black] - [Aerocool 550W Turbine Power] - [Creative SB X-Fi Fatal1ty FPS] - [Geil 2GB PC6400 DDR2] - [XFX 7950GX2 520M, 1GB, Extreme] - [BenQ FP937+ 19"] - [Razor DiamondBack] 3Dmark 03: 34641 - 3Dmark 06: 8672 - Stock Temps: CPU: 35c GPU: 52c - Clocked Temps: N\A.

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Prince_Link HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 274 Rep Power: 0	the same can be done for FF8 pc,.. all you need is the 1.1 patch and you can mod it with high polygon packs __________________

Sep 9, 2005, 03:23 PM	#20
Perfect Reason DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Norway, Oslo Posts: 69 Rep Power: 0	Dem2k. Wanna share the links to those patches? __________________ [Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4Ghz Conroe \w Zalman 9500 AT] - [Gigabyte GA-965P-DQ6] \| [WD HD 150GB 16mb Raptor] - [WD HD 400GB 16mb Caviar] - [Aerocool ExtremeEngine 3T Black] - [Aerocool 550W Turbine Power] - [Creative SB X-Fi Fatal1ty FPS] - [Geil 2GB PC6400 DDR2] - [XFX 7950GX2 520M, 1GB, Extreme] - [BenQ FP937+ 19"] - [Razor DiamondBack] 3Dmark 03: 34641 - 3Dmark 06: 8672 - Stock Temps: CPU: 35c GPU: 52c - Clocked Temps: N\A.

Sep 9, 2005, 04:13 PM	#21
blubb² DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 30 Rep Power: 0	actually the patch can be found in the links you supplied on the first page works great: http://forums.qhimm.com/viewtopic.php?t=3203

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Dem2k DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	sure Sure, but you should follow this thread here. Which is a useful guide to setting all the Reunion's Mod up, I at least found it very helpful. You'll need 5 files in order to use/mod the game, 1st is the FF7 TnT patch which you can find a link on the thread linked above. LGP tools, the music patch and Reunions Mod, and Saints awesome Hi res Patch, which AA works on ATI cards, I don't have an Nvidia card but Im guessing they work all the same. Music Patch is found here LGP Tools here Reunion's Mod here Finally the Saints Hiresmod is found here There is however a trick into fooling the FF7.exe so you get both the music patch and the Hi res patch to work, you must first, patch the game up using the TnT .exe patch files, then follow that by patching the exe with Saints Hi Res patch, then just patch the music using Centra.exe, which is explained in the "readme" of the music patch rar file. Bare in mind though these mods are either Beta, or just really not intended to look or work right, in certain area's of the game. But in my experiance It works well enough and allows me to enjoy the game even more. Have fun __________________ I disagree Sir! What use would a disinfected camel bring?

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riles9262 Driverheaven brewmaster Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,839 Rep Power: 61	Sweet, you guys are awesome...between this an the dh zeropoints, I guess my night is planned __________________ A beer a day keeps the doctor away.

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Perfect Reason DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Norway, Oslo Posts: 69 Rep Power: 0	Yeah, After i posted the post on where to get it, I googled it up myself Found it, read all the posts, and got it to work myself And baby does it look awesome!!!. The only thing i didnt do was the music patch. I have it downloaded, But is it really that much better? __________________ [Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4Ghz Conroe \w Zalman 9500 AT] - [Gigabyte GA-965P-DQ6] \| [WD HD 150GB 16mb Raptor] - [WD HD 400GB 16mb Caviar] - [Aerocool ExtremeEngine 3T Black] - [Aerocool 550W Turbine Power] - [Creative SB X-Fi Fatal1ty FPS] - [Geil 2GB PC6400 DDR2] - [XFX 7950GX2 520M, 1GB, Extreme] - [BenQ FP937+ 19"] - [Razor DiamondBack] 3Dmark 03: 34641 - 3Dmark 06: 8672 - Stock Temps: CPU: 35c GPU: 52c - Clocked Temps: N\A.

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riles9262 Driverheaven brewmaster Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,839 Rep Power: 61	So when is the reunion mod loaded in your opinion? Just before the saint's hires? And is this the tnt patch that you were speaking of? Thanks. Edit, nm, got it working __________________ A beer a day keeps the doctor away. Last edited by riles9262; Sep 10, 2005 at 05:56 AM.

Sep 10, 2005, 09:58 PM	#27
~~Sanafabich~~ BANNED Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 511 Rep Power: 0	3dfx rules!!!

Sep 11, 2005, 02:28 AM	#28
Dem2k DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	yeah the music patch is a must have It gets rid of the midi and basicly adds the psx music to the game, I've modded mine though. Most of the orginal psf files are replaced to some of the Black Mages ff7 tracks. /riles is that sig Off the trailer park boys? Man that show is well funny. __________________ I disagree Sir! What use would a disinfected camel bring? Last edited by Dem2k; Sep 11, 2005 at 01:00 PM.