Problems with x800pro

clivey · Sep 3, 2005, 11:23 PM

I have a fresh xp install fully updated, with the latest chipset drivers and bios. Whenever i install any driver (tryed the last omega, and catalyst 5.6, 5.7 and 5.8), the pc will crash into standby, when brought out of it, it will only crash back in within seconds.

The card has worked, as it was working fine for 3 months. I'm fairly sure that the bios is setup correctly (A8V deluxe), but i think that it may be the problem. Is there a list of correct values?

Much thanks

swimtech · Sep 5, 2005, 05:14 AM

Welcome to the DH forums...

Try turning off power management in the bios and turn off energy saving settings in the Windows control panel to see if that helps, then post your complete system specs, especially psu, video card make and model, and processor - OK?

Oh, and when your computer was working well recently, what driver and version were you running? If you wiped the unit's hard drive clean and then installed XP (with service packs, directX9, .Net 1.1 - along with the bios and mainboard drivers you mentioned) was it having a problem then? You may have a hardware problem, but let's see about these other questions first...

cswiger · Sep 7, 2005, 12:32 AM

Disabling APM/APCI is a good suggestion, I might also try changing the AGP aperture size (try 64 or 128 MB), or even try running it at 4x rather than 8x, and see whether that gets you anywhere. You might have a marginal PSU, which is conking out when the driver attaches and the graphics card becomes fully active.

H3X4D3C1M4L · Sep 7, 2005, 01:12 AM

You can't disable ACPI, just APM..... ACPI is needed for the PC to work, and changing it can render a Windows install unbootable because of the change in HAL... i.e. going from APIC to ACPI will make my XP unbootable.

cswiger · Sep 8, 2005, 06:17 PM

"APIC" is "Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller", it's required for SMP and it also determines whether the machine can set devices to use an IRQ number higher than 15, which was the original limit. Changing whether that is enabled could very well render Windows unbootable, as you said, because Windows configures the HAL to depend on that information.

"ACPI" is "Advanced Configuration & Power Interface" and has to do with turning off the display if the machine is idle, spinning down the harddrives, adjusting the CPU frequency to conserve power (ie, mostly for laptops). You ought to be able to change whether the BIOS does this without freaking Windows out.

I'm not sure whether this will help the original poster, but it's worth a try given his mention of going into some strange standby mode (which implies ACPI S1 or S3 sleep states to me, if the machine can resume afterwards).

H3X4D3C1M4L · Sep 8, 2005, 10:48 PM

I know but there are different HAL's windows uses.

ACPI Compliant System and APIC Uniprocessor/Multiprocessor PC.

I happen to use APIC because I need more than 15 IRQ's.

There is also an option, FWIW, to reset VGA bios on wake, which may have an effect.

Sep 3, 2005, 11:23 PM	#1
clivey DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Problems with x800pro I have a fresh xp install fully updated, with the latest chipset drivers and bios. Whenever i install any driver (tryed the last omega, and catalyst 5.6, 5.7 and 5.8), the pc will crash into standby, when brought out of it, it will only crash back in within seconds. The card has worked, as it was working fine for 3 months. I'm fairly sure that the bios is setup correctly (A8V deluxe), but i think that it may be the problem. Is there a list of correct values? Much thanks

Sep 5, 2005, 05:14 AM	#2
swimtech HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,040 Rep Power: 122 System Specs	Welcome to the DH forums... Try turning off power management in the bios and turn off energy saving settings in the Windows control panel to see if that helps, then post your complete system specs, especially psu, video card make and model, and processor - OK? Oh, and when your computer was working well recently, what driver and version were you running? If you wiped the unit's hard drive clean and then installed XP (with service packs, directX9, .Net 1.1 - along with the bios and mainboard drivers you mentioned) was it having a problem then? You may have a hardware problem, but let's see about these other questions first... __________________ It's not so much getting your way that matters or not - what matters is how you go about getting it.

Sep 7, 2005, 12:32 AM	#3
cswiger DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 233 Rep Power: 0	Disabling APM/APCI is a good suggestion, I might also try changing the AGP aperture size (try 64 or 128 MB), or even try running it at 4x rather than 8x, and see whether that gets you anywhere. You might have a marginal PSU, which is conking out when the driver attaches and the graphics card becomes fully active. __________________ Do you remember Shalebridge Cradle? Beware! The Cradle doesn't forget.... AMD Opteron 185 @ 2.6GHz/200HTT \| 2GB G.Skill DDR3200 @ 2-3-2-5/1T \| 512MB eVGA 8800GT @ 600/1800 \| SB Audigy 2ZS eX, Outlaw 1050 6.1ch amp, Paradigm speakers \| MSI K8N Diamond Plus mainboard \| black Lian-Li USB68 case + Foxconn FX600-GLN 600W PSU \| 2xWDC3200AAKS (RAID1) \| Sony GDM-F500R CRT, BENQ G2400W LCD

Sep 8, 2005, 06:17 PM	#5
cswiger DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 233 Rep Power: 0	"APIC" is "Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller", it's required for SMP and it also determines whether the machine can set devices to use an IRQ number higher than 15, which was the original limit. Changing whether that is enabled could very well render Windows unbootable, as you said, because Windows configures the HAL to depend on that information. "ACPI" is "Advanced Configuration & Power Interface" and has to do with turning off the display if the machine is idle, spinning down the harddrives, adjusting the CPU frequency to conserve power (ie, mostly for laptops). You ought to be able to change whether the BIOS does this without freaking Windows out. I'm not sure whether this will help the original poster, but it's worth a try given his mention of going into some strange standby mode (which implies ACPI S1 or S3 sleep states to me, if the machine can resume afterwards). __________________ Do you remember Shalebridge Cradle? Beware! The Cradle doesn't forget.... AMD Opteron 185 @ 2.6GHz/200HTT \| 2GB G.Skill DDR3200 @ 2-3-2-5/1T \| 512MB eVGA 8800GT @ 600/1800 \| SB Audigy 2ZS eX, Outlaw 1050 6.1ch amp, Paradigm speakers \| MSI K8N Diamond Plus mainboard \| black Lian-Li USB68 case + Foxconn FX600-GLN 600W PSU \| 2xWDC3200AAKS (RAID1) \| Sony GDM-F500R CRT, BENQ G2400W LCD

Sep 7, 2005, 01:12 AM	#4
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	You can't disable ACPI, just APM..... ACPI is needed for the PC to work, and changing it can render a Windows install unbootable because of the change in HAL... i.e. going from APIC to ACPI will make my XP unbootable.

Sep 8, 2005, 10:48 PM	#6
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	I know but there are different HAL's windows uses. ACPI Compliant System and APIC Uniprocessor/Multiprocessor PC. I happen to use APIC because I need more than 15 IRQ's. There is also an option, FWIW, to reset VGA bios on wake, which may have an effect.