DHzer0point 0.58 Beta Released

Blackboost · Sep 14, 2005, 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike[ITA]

Is there in this set a softmod for Radeon 9500 ??

Thanks

Not yet.

Blackboost · Sep 14, 2005, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SFOSOK

So did have the problems I have been having been fixed?

Sorry for the late reply but I have been busy with school until today. What problems did you had with the drivers?

Blackboost · Sep 14, 2005, 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike[ITA]

Is there in this set a softmod for Radeon 9500 ??

Thanks

Not yet.

tech.Me · Sep 14, 2005, 09:29 AM

These drivers are unfortunately slower then DNA's drivers (even when it's not set to ultra).

superlydia · Sep 14, 2005, 11:20 AM

My 9600/9700 series can't install the drivers!!! it said no matched hardware and software

HELP!!

Mike[ITA] · Sep 14, 2005, 02:24 PM

I cannot install the WMP10 patch.

I get this error : "Setup cannot continue cause one or more prerequisites required to install KB888656 failed

Blackboost · Sep 14, 2005, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superlydia

My 9600/9700 series can't install the drivers!!! it said no matched hardware and software

HELP!!

What is the device ID of your card?

Quote:

Originally Posted by superlydia

I cannot install the WMP10 patch.

I get this error : "Setup cannot continue cause one or more prerequisites required to install KB888656 failed

This is because you already have the patch applied. The patch was also offered no the DHzp 5.6 set, so if you used that set you already got the patch.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tech.Me

These drivers are unfortunately slower then DNA's drivers (even when it's not set to ultra).

Did you used driver cleaner pro before installing our drivers? How was the IQ on the games you played?

superlydia · Sep 14, 2005, 05:35 PM

how to see the device ID when i havent installed the driver????
do i need to install one and have a check the ID??

pr0digal jenius · Sep 14, 2005, 05:51 PM

look it up in the device manager:
right click my computer -> properties -> hardware -> device manager
open "display adapters" & right click the radeon 9600/9700 -> details

that's where the control panel pulls it from anyways, i think

tech.Me · Sep 15, 2005, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackboost

Did you used driver cleaner pro before installing our drivers? How was the IQ on the games you played?

Yes, Driver Cleaner Pro was ran. IQ is the same. Of course, my eyes is not too good for looking out for tiny differences like that, but they are roughly the same. In games, I get a tiny bit more suttering with these drivers then DNA's.

Hopefully that will change.

MaTr1x · Sep 15, 2005, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Spellbot 5000

Forcing the driver install though the control panel worked! Then running the standard setup.exe for the Control Panel also worked as well after that.

Hey, I've got the same Sapphire X800XT PE as you and had the same problem (and same device ID FYI).
As for every driver install since 5.5 (original 5.6, 5.7) this install didn't go smooth either:
When installing via Device manager and pointing to the driver folder when it was done copying files for secondary my screen went all grey/black checkered.
I rebooted and ran the setup.exe from the DHzer0point folder (not driver folder), secondary was installed fine, but primary wasn't so I did it the Device Manager way. My screen went blank when it was done copying files, I blindly rebooted and everything is fine. Dunno what happened, but looks like all is Ok.
I'm now off testing BF2.

FYI: the problems I had with 5.6 and 5.7 original was missing files during installation, 5.8 original was slow for me in BF2.
BTW, I did not disable the PCI latency thingy, does this mean it has been installed even though the normal installation procedure was aborted?
And what does it do exactly?

This is no negative post guys, just trying to give you as much feedback as possible, thanks for all the hard work. I can't wait for the Optimized BF2 set

BTW I did uninstall my previous 5.5 driver set the regular way and used the latest and live-updated Driver Cleaner PE in safe mode to remove every ATI file and manually deleted the ATI(2) folders and ATI Technologies(2) folders which were there because of a system restore. FYI: the original ATI Technologies folder was still present in my Program Files although it was empty.

PoopyTheJ · Sep 15, 2005, 02:31 AM

all that seems ok, PCI latency or Radlinker?

MaTr1x · Sep 15, 2005, 04:22 AM

Hey,

Seems like Radlinker HAS been installed, yes

Anyway I've been doing some thorough BF2 testing with various settings this last few hours, hope this helps you with optimizing the drivers for BF2:

The test:
Gulf of Oman: driving around a buggy the same path every time for a few rounds.
Hardware:
nF2 mobo (DFI LP), 2500+ mobile @ 2Ghz (200x10), 2GB RAM, X800XT PE stock

Freshly optimized shaders after driver installation.

Ingame settings for all tests (this is how I always play):
Resolution: 1280x1024
Terrain: Medium
Effects: High
Geometry: High
Textures: High
Lightning: Medium
Dynamic Shadows: Medium
Dynamic Lightning: Medium
Anit-Aliasing: 2x
Texture Filtering: High
View Distance: 100%

First of all with the previous 5.5 drivers I was using I had to set the ATi drivers to "Application Controlled" to have AA ingame. So I didn't change anything now since this was the default setting.

Results: no AA ingame, (that's why I thought the original 5.8 sucked also I guess, at that time I didn't test it much). Since I have Fraps always running I noticed frames between 40 and 90, constantly going up and down, there were sometimes hickups from 1 sec (the same you have in the beginning of a round normally when a lot of people join at the same time). Not playable.

Next I forced the ATi drivers to 6xAA/16xAF:

Results: Great AA ingame and a steady FPS between 70 and 80

(Tested also with ingame settings all @ high (w/ re-optimized shaders), steady FPS between 60 and 70).

Next I forced the ATi drivers to 4xAA/8xAF, BUT also enabled Temporal AA and got a funny result:
AA ingame still working, but the FPS was limited to EXACTLY 60 constantly.
Edit: it has come to my attention that TAA doesn't work below 60 FPS, but it didn't exceed 60 either.

Also tested 4xAA/8xAF w/o Temporal AA and this gave the same result as 6xAA/16xAF.

So far now the optimal results are 4xAA/8xAF to be on the safe side w/o Temp AA.

Enough testing for now, time to get some sleep

BTW I changed the settings in the control panel, I did not use Radlinker to change the settings.

superlydia · Sep 15, 2005, 04:50 PM

My deviceID is PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E50&SUBSYS_17721043&REV_00\4&367 A1F72&0&0008

Blackboost · Sep 15, 2005, 09:59 PM

OK, thanks for the excellent feedback guys. Right now we're looking to fix the installation problems with the x800 cards. So hopefully we will fix these before the next set.

theguide · Sep 16, 2005, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaTr1x

Next I forced the ATi drivers to 4xAA/8xAF, BUT also enabled Temporal AA and got a funny result:
AA ingame still working, but the FPS was limited to EXACTLY 60 constantly.
Edit: it has come to my attention that TAA doesn't work below 60 FPS, but it didn't exceed 60 either.

When you use Temporal AA, some kind of Vertical Sync is applied. I'm guessing you are using TFT which has a 60 Hz refreshrate setting by default (as it is irrelevant for TFT's). As I am a CRT user myself, I don't know if you can increase your refreshrate. If you can increase your refreshrate you will notice that your max FPS will have the same value.

Beware, the refreshrate bug in Windows (at least, I think it is a Windows bug) resets your refreshrate to 60 when entering graphic (game) mode. So you'll have to get around that bug to make sure that the in-game refreshrate is the same as the one you setup in Windows (2D) mode. You can fix this bug in the driver under Displays --> Choose the relevant Display --> Force refresh (or something like that) to 85 Hz for example.

MaTr1x · Sep 16, 2005, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theguide

When you use Temporal AA, some kind of Vertical Sync is applied. I'm guessing you are using TFT which has a 60 Hz refreshrate setting by default (as it is irrelevant for TFT's). As I am a CRT user myself, I don't know if you can increase your refreshrate. If you can increase your refreshrate you will notice that your max FPS will have the same value.

Yeah I've got a TFT indeed although it can do both 60 and 75Hz, but that's probably the reason TAA locks it to 60Hz.

Quote:

Originally Posted by theguide

Beware, the refreshrate bug in Windows (at least, I think it is a Windows bug) resets your refreshrate to 60 when entering graphic (game) mode. So you'll have to get around that bug to make sure that the in-game refreshrate is the same as the one you setup in Windows (2D) mode. You can fix this bug in the driver under Displays --> Choose the relevant Display --> Force refresh (or something like that) to 85 Hz for example.

I'm aware of that bug, since a while there's indeed an option in the ATi drivers to force a higher refreshrate although I've always used Refreshlock myself (100Hz @ 1280x1024). But that's not relevant anymore since I have a TFT now.

About my tests, like I said I noticed fluctuating FPS when the ATi drivers were set to app controlled, when I forced AA in the drivers those fluctuations went away. Someone I know has also been testing these drivers and he's still using the app controled setting in the ATi drivers and he has no problems whatsoever in BF2 (IIRC he's got an X850XT).

Last night I've been playing with the settings I said were the best settings and BF2 played fine, IQ is better IMHO, one thing that's not right is the console in BF2, the text is all scrambled now so it becomes unreadable. Will test again when I have the time with the app controlled setting to see if this makes a difference.

falconwar · Sep 19, 2005, 05:01 AM

I installed your drivers.. No gains either no better IQ.

But I respect your hard work and your drivers did uninstall easily.

I like to try different sets of drivers and I ll try your next release so keep up your hard work...

Really great to have many modders... This is why I like DH

narc0tics · Sep 20, 2005, 06:05 AM

HL2 works nice in CS Source but i only have 2 questions...

what do i have to take out in the autoexec.cfg so that my hands won't look like they are glowing.. and in dust2 there are a few black spots in bombsite B.. what do i have to take out of autoexec to fix this???

FnF · Sep 26, 2005, 09:12 PM

Just a question, are you guys going to release a final 5.8 or a new one for 5.9?

pr0digal jenius · Sep 26, 2005, 10:29 PM

5.9, I believe

kelticknight · Sep 26, 2005, 11:28 PM

cool
look forward to its release
keep up good work guys

PoopyTheJ · Sep 26, 2005, 11:41 PM

I've never seen that before narc0tics, can you post a screenshot for reference or email it to me?

Typhoid_Susan · Sep 28, 2005, 06:16 PM

I just installed the DHzer0point 0.58 drivers on my system.
Loaded up BF2 and turned all the detail upto high. It is running great, nice and smooth, but, whenever someone throws a grenade at me and the screen is suppost to go all fuzzy all I get is screen corruption then as the dizzines fades the regular image comes back.
I was hopeing someone could tell me which setting in the driver I would need to change to correct the problem.

I have an AMD Athlon XP3000+ 1 Gb Ram and an ATI X700 AGP with 128Mb Ram.

Just to let you know I was using an old Omega driver and had no trouble with this but it did run a lot slower.

Ferret_Style · Sep 28, 2005, 06:23 PM

try the 5.8 omega and report back that way you are compairing apples to apples

pr0digal jenius · Sep 28, 2005, 06:26 PM

can you post a screenshot Susan? so we can see this "screen corruption" and get some idea what's causing it

Typhoid_Susan · Sep 28, 2005, 07:54 PM

I installed the Omega 2.6.71 (5.9) yesterday and my computer kept on locking up everytime I tryed to start the machine. I had to get in via Safe Mode and uninstall the drivers and go back to Version 2.6.25a which was the last omega driver to use radlinker. I never had any trouble with it.
I only found the DHzer0point driver while I was trying to find a solution to the lockups.
I will try and get some screen shots and post them tomorrow.

PoopyTheJ · Sep 28, 2005, 08:59 PM

I'm not sure but probably a post processing effect somewhere perhaps somewhere in the game.... not terribly familiar with BF2

Typhoid_Susan · Sep 29, 2005, 03:21 AM

Got some screen shots but I dont seem to be able to post attachments.
Any ideas?

Typhoid_Susan · Sep 29, 2005, 05:53 AM

OK if you go here I have put up 4 screen shots.
01 shows the screen before the hand grenade goes off.
02 shows the screen after the hand grenade has exploded near me
03 shows the effect starting to go back to normal
04 shows everything back to normal.

One thing I did notice on 02 is that the mini map in the upper right corner and the text in the upper left corner are unaffected by this.

For those of you that dont know BF2, what is suppost to happed is an effect as if you went dizzy from the shock of the grenade the screen goes blurry and its hard to aim, but you can still see enough to run and take cover. When the screen goes like it does now I cant see anything and I am just a sitting duck.

Sep 14, 2005, 09:29 AM	#94
tech.Me DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 139 Rep Power: 0	These drivers are unfortunately slower then DNA's drivers (even when it's not set to ultra). __________________ AMD Athlon XP 2400+ \| Windows XP Pro \| ATI 9600XT 128MB \| Samsung 120GB 5400RPM \| Saitek Cyborg Evo

Sep 14, 2005, 11:20 AM	#95
superlydia DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	Nooo!! My 9600/9700 series can't install the drivers!!! it said no matched hardware and software HELP!!

Sep 14, 2005, 02:24 PM	#96
Mike[ITA] Johnny Favourite Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Catania, Italy Posts: 100 Rep Power: 0	I cannot install the WMP10 patch. I get this error : "Setup cannot continue cause one or more prerequisites required to install KB888656 failed __________________ AMD AthlonXp 2600+ , Chaintech 7NJS ULTRA Zenith, Radeon X800GT 256Mb AGP and 1024MB DDR 400Mhz "We belong to another Country and we believe in the Heroes"

Sep 14, 2005, 05:35 PM	#98
superlydia DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	9600/9700 how to see the device ID when i havent installed the driver???? do i need to install one and have a check the ID??

Sep 15, 2005, 02:31 AM	Thread Starter #102
PoopyTheJ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,588 Rep Power: 64	all that seems ok, PCI latency or Radlinker? __________________ [COLOR=Blue]“Alright boys, let’s start her up and see why she doesn’t work.” - John Fritz "I aim to misbehave" Malcolm Reynolds ATI Catalyst Beta Tester[/COLOR]

Sep 14, 2005, 05:51 PM	#99
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	look it up in the device manager: right click my computer -> properties -> hardware -> device manager open "display adapters" & right click the radeon 9600/9700 -> details that's where the control panel pulls it from anyways, i think

Sep 15, 2005, 04:22 AM	#103
MaTr1x DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	Hey, Seems like Radlinker HAS been installed, yes Anyway I've been doing some thorough BF2 testing with various settings this last few hours, hope this helps you with optimizing the drivers for BF2: The test: Gulf of Oman: driving around a buggy the same path every time for a few rounds. Hardware: nF2 mobo (DFI LP), 2500+ mobile @ 2Ghz (200x10), 2GB RAM, X800XT PE stock Freshly optimized shaders after driver installation. Ingame settings for all tests (this is how I always play): Resolution: 1280x1024 Terrain: Medium Effects: High Geometry: High Textures: High Lightning: Medium Dynamic Shadows: Medium Dynamic Lightning: Medium Anit-Aliasing: 2x Texture Filtering: High View Distance: 100% First of all with the previous 5.5 drivers I was using I had to set the ATi drivers to "Application Controlled" to have AA ingame. So I didn't change anything now since this was the default setting. Results: no AA ingame, (that's why I thought the original 5.8 sucked also I guess, at that time I didn't test it much). Since I have Fraps always running I noticed frames between 40 and 90, constantly going up and down, there were sometimes hickups from 1 sec (the same you have in the beginning of a round normally when a lot of people join at the same time). Not playable. Next I forced the ATi drivers to 6xAA/16xAF: Results: Great AA ingame and a steady FPS between 70 and 80 (Tested also with ingame settings all @ high (w/ re-optimized shaders), steady FPS between 60 and 70). Next I forced the ATi drivers to 4xAA/8xAF, BUT also enabled Temporal AA and got a funny result: AA ingame still working, but the FPS was limited to EXACTLY 60 constantly. Edit: it has come to my attention that TAA doesn't work below 60 FPS, but it didn't exceed 60 either. Also tested 4xAA/8xAF w/o Temporal AA and this gave the same result as 6xAA/16xAF. So far now the optimal results are 4xAA/8xAF to be on the safe side w/o Temp AA. Enough testing for now, time to get some sleep BTW I changed the settings in the control panel, I did not use Radlinker to change the settings. __________________ Last edited by MaTr1x; Sep 15, 2005 at 04:19 PM.

Sep 15, 2005, 04:50 PM	#104
superlydia DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	9600/9700 My deviceID is PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E50&SUBSYS_17721043&REV_00\4&367 A1F72&0&0008 __________________ ASUS M6N Dothan 1.6, ATi Mobility 9600/9700 series 64Mb, 60Gb Combo DVD

Sep 15, 2005, 09:59 PM	#105
Blackboost -=[DHzer0point Author]=- Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 0 Rep Power: 0	OK, thanks for the excellent feedback guys. Right now we're looking to fix the installation problems with the x800 cards. So hopefully we will fix these before the next set.

Sep 19, 2005, 05:01 AM	#108
falconwar DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	I installed your drivers.. No gains either no better IQ. But I respect your hard work and your drivers did uninstall easily. I like to try different sets of drivers and I ll try your next release so keep up your hard work... Really great to have many modders... This is why I like DH

Sep 20, 2005, 06:05 AM	#109
narc0tics DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	HL2 works nice in CS Source but i only have 2 questions... what do i have to take out in the autoexec.cfg so that my hands won't look like they are glowing.. and in dust2 there are a few black spots in bombsite B.. what do i have to take out of autoexec to fix this???

Sep 26, 2005, 09:12 PM	#110
FnF DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 615 Rep Power: 0	Just a question, are you guys going to release a final 5.8 or a new one for 5.9? __________________ DH and ATI rock!!!!!!!!!!

Sep 26, 2005, 10:29 PM	#111
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	5.9, I believe

Sep 26, 2005, 11:28 PM	#112
kelticknight DriverHeaven Knight Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: EIRE{great for black stuff ,bulmers cider and Munster rubgy Posts: 1,095 Rep Power: 0	cool look forward to its release keep up good work guys __________________

Sep 26, 2005, 11:41 PM	Thread Starter #113
PoopyTheJ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,588 Rep Power: 64	I've never seen that before narc0tics, can you post a screenshot for reference or email it to me? __________________ [COLOR=Blue]“Alright boys, let’s start her up and see why she doesn’t work.” - John Fritz "I aim to misbehave" Malcolm Reynolds ATI Catalyst Beta Tester[/COLOR]

Sep 28, 2005, 06:16 PM	#114
Typhoid_Susan DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	I just installed the DHzer0point 0.58 drivers on my system. Loaded up BF2 and turned all the detail upto high. It is running great, nice and smooth, but, whenever someone throws a grenade at me and the screen is suppost to go all fuzzy all I get is screen corruption then as the dizzines fades the regular image comes back. I was hopeing someone could tell me which setting in the driver I would need to change to correct the problem. I have an AMD Athlon XP3000+ 1 Gb Ram and an ATI X700 AGP with 128Mb Ram. Just to let you know I was using an old Omega driver and had no trouble with this but it did run a lot slower.

Sep 28, 2005, 06:26 PM	#116
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	can you post a screenshot Susan? so we can see this "screen corruption" and get some idea what's causing it

Sep 28, 2005, 07:54 PM	#117
Typhoid_Susan DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	I installed the Omega 2.6.71 (5.9) yesterday and my computer kept on locking up everytime I tryed to start the machine. I had to get in via Safe Mode and uninstall the drivers and go back to Version 2.6.25a which was the last omega driver to use radlinker. I never had any trouble with it. I only found the DHzer0point driver while I was trying to find a solution to the lockups. I will try and get some screen shots and post them tomorrow.

Sep 28, 2005, 08:59 PM	Thread Starter #118
PoopyTheJ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,588 Rep Power: 64	I'm not sure but probably a post processing effect somewhere perhaps somewhere in the game.... not terribly familiar with BF2 __________________ [COLOR=Blue]“Alright boys, let’s start her up and see why she doesn’t work.” - John Fritz "I aim to misbehave" Malcolm Reynolds ATI Catalyst Beta Tester[/COLOR]

Sep 29, 2005, 03:21 AM	#119
Typhoid_Susan DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	Got some screen shots but I dont seem to be able to post attachments. Any ideas?

Sep 29, 2005, 05:53 AM	#120
Typhoid_Susan DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	OK if you go here I have put up 4 screen shots. 01 shows the screen before the hand grenade goes off. 02 shows the screen after the hand grenade has exploded near me 03 shows the effect starting to go back to normal 04 shows everything back to normal. One thing I did notice on 02 is that the mini map in the upper right corner and the text in the upper left corner are unaffected by this. For those of you that dont know BF2, what is suppost to happed is an effect as if you went dizzy from the shock of the grenade the screen goes blurry and its hard to aim, but you can still see enough to run and take cover. When the screen goes like it does now I cant see anything and I am just a sitting duck.