Uninstall b4 install?

Rixn · Oct 15, 2005, 02:55 PM

When I read about 3D-graphics drivers I always encounter info that one should uninstall the current driver, restart the computer and then install the new driver.

Here comes some n00b Q:

Is this correct or do I only have to uninstall previous driver if the 3D card is/isn't from the same manufacturer/brand/type/etc?
But will the computer be able to visualize something after I have uninstalled the existing driver and starting it up again?

**MIG-31** · Oct 15, 2005, 03:04 PM

I find it best to remove drivers before updating to new drivers...download Drivercleaner pro then follow the read me that comes with this app.

But don't use this app before removing the drivers as it will increase the chance of corupting windows.

A)Remove Drivers

B)Reboot into safe mode

c)Run DC (selest the correct option for you're card)

d)Reboot

d.1) I sometimes re-install the chipset drivers at this point.

e)Install new drivers.

Rixn · Oct 15, 2005, 03:18 PM

Is this whole procedure neccesary for only small upgrades like from Catalyst 4.6 to 5.10?

**MIG-31** · Oct 15, 2005, 03:25 PM

considering the has been around 15 driver updates (give or take 1 or 2) the will be some huge changes from the 4.6 cats.I'd personally would say yes.....it can be done in around 5 mins.....

(im not to be held responsable if things don't go to plan)..

Rixn · Oct 15, 2005, 04:02 PM

If one speak in general terms then?

The obvious answer is always to follow those instructions, but what about how hard core gamers in fact do in reality when a small upgrade has come.

Is it possible at all to install over the old version?
What kind of problems could you expect to encounter if it's not working?
Is it a risk of damaging either the card or the computer so no roll-back option is available?
Is it so that you tend to see if the upgrade is a big one - then you follow the proper steps?
Isn't the Driver Cleaner overkill?
What inmportant things does it remove that normal uninstall won't?

ReDGuiTaR · Oct 15, 2005, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rixn

If one speak in general terms then?

The obvious answer is always to follow those instructions, but what about how hard core gamers in fact do in reality when a small upgrade has come.

Is it possible at all to install over the old version?
What kind of problems could you expect to encounter if it's not working?
Is it a risk of damaging either the card or the computer so no roll-back option is available?
Is it so that you tend to see if the upgrade is a big one - then you follow the proper steps?
Isn't the Driver Cleaner overkill?
What inmportant things does it remove that normal uninstall won't?

1. Yes, but it is highly recommend to uninstall before using drivercleaner that can befound on this site .

2. if the new instalation does not work p[roperly you might want to reinstall a older driver, they can be found on ATI website .

3. no it shouldnt damage the computer or the card but since you uninstall the driver there s no roll back option availabel and if something goes wrong you have to reinstall a older version

4. you should always follow the same procedure for any upgrade .

5. drivercleaner is really helpfull and can avoid many problem when upgrading.

6. This little apps just remove anything related to the driver that can be left from previous installation wich ensure that you dont get corrupt driver files when you upgrade .

Quote:

But will the computer be able to visualize something after I have uninstalled the existing driver and starting it up again?

Yes, Windows will use the standard VGA driver ... just low resolution ...

cswiger · Oct 15, 2005, 04:48 PM

1. Yes, but at the very least you should run the ATI uninstaller to delete your existing drivers, reboot when it tells you, and then install the new drivers from VGA mode. Rebooting once in Safe mode and running DriverCleanerPro is a good idea, but not essential.

2. If you don't uninstall, sometimes Windows gets confused about which driver files to use and either uses the older driver, or a mixture of old and new driver files. Sometimes you get major FPS problems, or even program crashes as a result.

3. No. But it can be a pain to rollback to an older driver, especially if you don't have a copy handy. Its a good idea to not delete the older driver file until you're happy with the updated version.

4. No. At least follow the update procedure that ATI lists in their README every time. It's not like it's going to take more than an extra minute or so...

5. DriverCleaner is helpful. If the vendor drivers (and I'm not just talking about ATI here) were perfect, DCPro would not be needed.

6. DCPro will remove old registry entries by being more aggressive about nuking stuff, and it will hunt down old driver files in the .cab files Windows creates to backup the working driver files in use by the system. ("cab cleaner mode")

Michel Merlin · Nov 21, 2005, 10:02 AM

Installing an ATI Catalyst or Radeon Omega driver set needs uninstalling only (and if necessary):

[color=#800080]ATI Tray Tools[/color]
ACP (ATI Control Panel) or CCC (Catalyst® Control Center)

Such install doesn't need uninstall the ATI or OMEGA driver itself; it just doesn't hurt to uninstall/reinstall it.

The above results from [color=#800080]RADEON OMEGA DRIVERS README[/color]:

1) [color=red]What's New in Omega Drivers, [/color]Important Info:

Since these drivers include a non-standard version of ATT, I would recommend that if you have any previous version of ATT installed, please uninstall it before installing these drivers, not doing so may cause unknown problems.

2) [color=red]Other Important Notes[/color], REMINDERS:

A- If you have the normal ATI drivers installed, uninstall the ATI Control Panel or CCC BEFORE upgrading to these drivers, the Omega Drivers already have the CP integrated and another CP will cause conflicts or other problems.
B- There is no need to uninstall ANY previous drivers (ATI or OMEGA) when installing these, the new ones will overwrite any previous settings, but if you still want to uninstall them completely, is ok.

Paris, Mon 21 Nov 2005 11:02:25 +0100, edited 11:30:20

H3X4D3C1M4L · Nov 21, 2005, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rixn

Is this whole procedure neccesary for only small upgrades like from Catalyst 4.6 to 5.10?

rofl that ain't no small jump...

swimtech · Nov 21, 2005, 06:22 PM

Nice installation procedure stuff here in one place...

Oct 15, 2005, 02:55 PM	#1
Rixn DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Stockholm Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	Uninstall b4 install? When I read about 3D-graphics drivers I always encounter info that one should uninstall the current driver, restart the computer and then install the new driver. Here comes some n00b Q: Is this correct or do I only have to uninstall previous driver if the 3D card is/isn't from the same manufacturer/brand/type/etc? But will the computer be able to visualize something after I have uninstalled the existing driver and starting it up again?

Oct 15, 2005, 03:04 PM	#2
MIG-31 HardwareHeaven News Mod Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Nottingham,UK Posts: 56,866 Rep Power: 471 System Specs	I find it best to remove drivers before updating to new drivers...download Drivercleaner pro then follow the read me that comes with this app. But don't use this app before removing the drivers as it will increase the chance of corupting windows. A)Remove Drivers B)Reboot into safe mode c)Run DC (selest the correct option for you're card) d)Reboot d.1) I sometimes re-install the chipset drivers at this point. e)Install new drivers. __________________ Please Post Your News Submissions Here

Oct 15, 2005, 03:25 PM	#4
MIG-31 HardwareHeaven News Mod Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Nottingham,UK Posts: 56,866 Rep Power: 471 System Specs	considering the has been around 15 driver updates (give or take 1 or 2) the will be some huge changes from the 4.6 cats.I'd personally would say yes.....it can be done in around 5 mins..... (im not to be held responsable if things don't go to plan).. __________________ Please Post Your News Submissions Here

Oct 15, 2005, 04:02 PM	Thread Starter #5
Rixn DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Stockholm Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	If one speak in general terms then? The obvious answer is always to follow those instructions, but what about how hard core gamers in fact do in reality when a small upgrade has come. Is it possible at all to install over the old version? What kind of problems could you expect to encounter if it's not working? Is it a risk of damaging either the card or the computer so no roll-back option is available? Is it so that you tend to see if the upgrade is a big one - then you follow the proper steps? Isn't the Driver Cleaner overkill? What inmportant things does it remove that normal uninstall won't? Last edited by Rixn; Oct 15, 2005 at 04:09 PM. Reason: Adding questions

Oct 15, 2005, 04:48 PM	#7
cswiger DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 233 Rep Power: 0	1. Yes, but at the very least you should run the ATI uninstaller to delete your existing drivers, reboot when it tells you, and then install the new drivers from VGA mode. Rebooting once in Safe mode and running DriverCleanerPro is a good idea, but not essential. 2. If you don't uninstall, sometimes Windows gets confused about which driver files to use and either uses the older driver, or a mixture of old and new driver files. Sometimes you get major FPS problems, or even program crashes as a result. 3. No. But it can be a pain to rollback to an older driver, especially if you don't have a copy handy. Its a good idea to not delete the older driver file until you're happy with the updated version. 4. No. At least follow the update procedure that ATI lists in their README every time. It's not like it's going to take more than an extra minute or so... 5. DriverCleaner is helpful. If the vendor drivers (and I'm not just talking about ATI here) were perfect, DCPro would not be needed. 6. DCPro will remove old registry entries by being more aggressive about nuking stuff, and it will hunt down old driver files in the .cab files Windows creates to backup the working driver files in use by the system. ("cab cleaner mode") __________________ Do you remember Shalebridge Cradle? Beware! The Cradle doesn't forget.... AMD Opteron 185 @ 2.6GHz/200HTT \| 2GB G.Skill DDR3200 @ 2-3-2-5/1T \| 512MB eVGA 8800GT @ 600/1800 \| SB Audigy 2ZS eX, Outlaw 1050 6.1ch amp, Paradigm speakers \| MSI K8N Diamond Plus mainboard \| black Lian-Li USB68 case + Foxconn FX600-GLN 600W PSU \| 2xWDC3200AAKS (RAID1) \| Sony GDM-F500R CRT, BENQ G2400W LCD

Oct 15, 2005, 03:18 PM	Thread Starter #3
Rixn DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Stockholm Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	Is this whole procedure neccesary for only small upgrades like from Catalyst 4.6 to 5.10?

Nov 21, 2005, 10:02 AM	#8
Michel Merlin DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2003 Location: Versailles (France) Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	Only uninstall the ATT and ACP (or CCC), don't need uninstall the driver itself Installing an ATI Catalyst or Radeon Omega driver set needs uninstalling only (and if necessary): [color=#800080]ATI Tray Tools[/color] ACP (ATI Control Panel) or CCC (Catalyst® Control Center) Such install doesn't need uninstall the ATI or OMEGA driver itself; it just doesn't hurt to uninstall/reinstall it. The above results from [color=#800080]RADEON OMEGA DRIVERS README[/color]: 1) [color=red]What's New in Omega Drivers, [/color]Important Info: Since these drivers include a non-standard version of ATT, I would recommend that if you have any previous version of ATT installed, please uninstall it before installing these drivers, not doing so may cause unknown problems. 2) [color=red]Other Important Notes[/color], REMINDERS: A- If you have the normal ATI drivers installed, uninstall the ATI Control Panel or CCC BEFORE upgrading to these drivers, the Omega Drivers already have the CP integrated and another CP will cause conflicts or other problems. B- There is no need to uninstall ANY previous drivers (ATI or OMEGA) when installing these, the new ones will overwrite any previous settings, but if you still want to uninstall them completely, is ok. Paris, Mon 21 Nov 2005 11:02:25 +0100, edited 11:30:20 Last edited by Michel Merlin; Nov 21, 2005 at 10:30 AM.

Nov 21, 2005, 06:22 PM	#10
swimtech HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,040 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	Nice installation procedure stuff here in one place... __________________ It's not so much getting your way that matters or not - what matters is how you go about getting it.