Display Setting Problems

Tobey · Oct 20, 2005, 02:07 AM

Ok so I just got a new card for my PC, an ATI Radeon 9250... Yeah I know its not that great a card right now but I have an AGP board, not much money and I got the card for free. Not to mention its a pretty good upgrade from my Geforce MX420. Anyways... Im having trouble now and I have tryed uninstalling using DC pro and reinstalling, I must have tryed this a few times a few different ways.

This is my problem...

My games and desktop are pretty dark with my monitor, so I use the color settings to adjust the brightness and gamma. I do this for my Desktop and Full Screen 3D(which effects games like DoD: Source and such right?). Well not only does the Full Screen 3D settings seem to not effect anything but when I exit the game my desktop looks like it would if I had default settings. So I go to my color menu to fix it and it does a sort of "refresh" to the settings I had set to make it look like I want.

Now from what I have read and been told by friends and people I talk to via Teamspeak, it sounds like a problem with when I installed my drivers. Which would make sense because I know I overlaped my ATI drivers and my old Nvidia drivers, I've never installed drivers before

I had a reall pain trying to get rid of the Nvidia drivers because there was no uninstall file and it wasnt in add/remove programs so I ended up deleteing the file and using DC pro. Then I uninstalled ATI drivers using add/remove and then I used DC pro. I then restarted windows in VGA mode(read Im sappose to do that) and fresh installed my ATI drivers. Same problem, so I uninstalled my ATI drivers again used DC pro and tryed these Omega drivers. Same problem.

If I could get some opinions on my situation and maybe a guide to using DC pro? Im not really sure if Im doing that right. Maybe a guide to uninstalling drivers? Because Ive been doing add/remove programs and I have a feeling thats not doing it right.

Thanks in advance.
-Tobes

Edit: Wow I cant beleive I forgot to mention... I've also gotten what I think was called a "VPU Error" where it said it had to restart... something, sorry I cant remember what is says but Ill write it down next time it happens.

Tobey · Oct 20, 2005, 10:48 PM

^bump

swimtech · Oct 21, 2005, 03:33 AM

The best guide to using the DriverCleaner is at the site www.drivercleaner.net but basically it goes like this:

Use Add/Remove Programs to uninstall the driver and control panel - anything ATI

Reboot to safe mode and use the DriverCleaner to clean out all the ATI and Nvidia items

Reboot to normal and install the video driverset.

Sounds like you've got it basically correct too, but there are often little quirks in the process depending upon your particular setup of hardware and software.

You would do well to read posts in the Graphics Cards forums (Windows Radeon Display Driver forum particularly...) and the Software/Tools forums (the DriverHeaven Tools Discussion forum mainly...) - take your time, use the Search function - you'll learn a lot...

And, this seems a driver issue so I'll move this there...

Edit : Read this thread?

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/windows-xp-radeon-display-drivers/88149-gamma-settings-revert-back-default.html

H3X4D3C1M4L · Oct 21, 2005, 03:31 PM

I don't think its hardware I think its a case of just software/driver issues

Tobey · Oct 22, 2005, 07:00 PM

Ok thanks, Ill read those threads and try that out now.

Tobey · Oct 22, 2005, 09:40 PM

Yeah, no luck still the same problem... Im guessing its a hardware issue now or something.

Robert McClelland · Oct 22, 2005, 11:23 PM

try format and do autopatcher xp udpated after words you have sp2 installed? Whats your currect psu?

Tobey · Oct 23, 2005, 01:57 AM

Tryed the autopatcher idea and that hasnt worked either and yes I do have SP2. I dont know what you mean buy "currect psu" correct psu? or current psu? and what is a psu?

Someone suggested it could be my motherboard bios so I updated those and still doesnt work.

Robert McClelland · Oct 23, 2005, 02:54 AM

whats your power supply fan?

Tobey · Oct 23, 2005, 03:27 AM

Antec Truepower 480w, brand new so that shouldnt be a problem.

Robert McClelland · Oct 23, 2005, 04:03 AM

Maybe there something worng with your video card. Might have RMA it. I hope it's not the mother board for ya my agp die on my motherboard I just got replace 3weeks ago

Bicka · Oct 24, 2005, 01:27 AM

Its the drivers, simple as. Just follow my guide(linked above) on using hotkeys to reset your brightness and colour, when playing games and coming out of them, and that'll be the best you can hope for, for now...and forever.

The VPU recovery thing was happening to me alot with the older drivers (5.6 through till 5.8). I've been sticking with the Omegadriver 5.9 since they've came out and not gotten one since. Exception being while playing World of Warcraft in certain areas of the game, which has been noted by Blizzard and ATI, so hopefully will be fixed.

So at the end of the day, install the Omegadrivers, use the ATT(ATI Tray Tools, great program which comes with the driver) colour/hotkey settings and pray nothing else comes along to screw up your gaming pleasure

Tobey · Oct 24, 2005, 03:30 AM

so you have the same issue? Is it just the drivers and this card? ATI radeon 9250?

If so then Ill just get a different card.

Bicka · Oct 24, 2005, 05:00 AM

If you read my post, on the link that was provided above by swimtech, you'd know I have the same issue. And its to be blamed fully on the drivers.

The colour and brightness settings have never properly worked in the ATI drivers since day 1 of owning my 9800XT. The only reason more people don't care about this fact is that they have monitors that can compensate. My monitor however, and I'd assume yours as well, is already at max brightness and contrast. But still, playing games at default is greatly impossible.

So you've 3 options ahead of you:

1. Put up with it, install the Omegadrivers or ATT by itself and continue to keep flicking through hotkeys whenever you load up a game, change resolution and drop back to your desktop.
2. Buy a new monitor with a higher range of brightness.
3. Buy a Nvidia card, which drivers have no problems with remembering profiles.

Good luck with whatever you decide.

Tobey · Oct 24, 2005, 07:25 PM

Thank you for the help.

Oct 20, 2005, 02:07 AM	#1
Tobey DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 598 Rep Power: 0	Display Setting Problems Ok so I just got a new card for my PC, an ATI Radeon 9250... Yeah I know its not that great a card right now but I have an AGP board, not much money and I got the card for free. Not to mention its a pretty good upgrade from my Geforce MX420. Anyways... Im having trouble now and I have tryed uninstalling using DC pro and reinstalling, I must have tryed this a few times a few different ways. This is my problem... My games and desktop are pretty dark with my monitor, so I use the color settings to adjust the brightness and gamma. I do this for my Desktop and Full Screen 3D(which effects games like DoD: Source and such right?). Well not only does the Full Screen 3D settings seem to not effect anything but when I exit the game my desktop looks like it would if I had default settings. So I go to my color menu to fix it and it does a sort of "refresh" to the settings I had set to make it look like I want. Now from what I have read and been told by friends and people I talk to via Teamspeak, it sounds like a problem with when I installed my drivers. Which would make sense because I know I overlaped my ATI drivers and my old Nvidia drivers, I've never installed drivers before I had a reall pain trying to get rid of the Nvidia drivers because there was no uninstall file and it wasnt in add/remove programs so I ended up deleteing the file and using DC pro. Then I uninstalled ATI drivers using add/remove and then I used DC pro. I then restarted windows in VGA mode(read Im sappose to do that) and fresh installed my ATI drivers. Same problem, so I uninstalled my ATI drivers again used DC pro and tryed these Omega drivers. Same problem. If I could get some opinions on my situation and maybe a guide to using DC pro? Im not really sure if Im doing that right. Maybe a guide to uninstalling drivers? Because Ive been doing add/remove programs and I have a feeling thats not doing it right. Thanks in advance. -Tobes Edit: Wow I cant beleive I forgot to mention... I've also gotten what I think was called a "VPU Error" where it said it had to restart... something, sorry I cant remember what is says but Ill write it down next time it happens. Last edited by Tobey; Oct 20, 2005 at 02:23 AM.

Oct 21, 2005, 03:33 AM	#3
swimtech HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,040 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	The best guide to using the DriverCleaner is at the site www.drivercleaner.net but basically it goes like this: Use Add/Remove Programs to uninstall the driver and control panel - anything ATI Reboot to safe mode and use the DriverCleaner to clean out all the ATI and Nvidia items Reboot to normal and install the video driverset. Sounds like you've got it basically correct too, but there are often little quirks in the process depending upon your particular setup of hardware and software. You would do well to read posts in the Graphics Cards forums (Windows Radeon Display Driver forum particularly...) and the Software/Tools forums (the DriverHeaven Tools Discussion forum mainly...) - take your time, use the Search function - you'll learn a lot... And, this seems a driver issue so I'll move this there... Edit : Read this thread? http://www.hardwareheaven.com/windows-xp-radeon-display-drivers/88149-gamma-settings-revert-back-default.html __________________ It's not so much getting your way that matters or not - what matters is how you go about getting it. Last edited by swimtech; Oct 21, 2005 at 03:54 AM.

Oct 22, 2005, 11:23 PM	#7
Robert McClelland PAX Tweaker, PAX Expert. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Somewhere in Wood County Ohio Same Town :) Posts: 10,673 Rep Power: 196 System Specs	try format and do autopatcher xp udpated after words you have sp2 installed? Whats your currect psu? __________________ "XTREME AUDIO IS CRAP!" "There no support for it. It's crapist card on face of the earth it should be throw into the sun" http://www.speedtest.net/result/1949536385.png correct the correct one now

Oct 23, 2005, 02:54 AM	#9
Robert McClelland PAX Tweaker, PAX Expert. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Somewhere in Wood County Ohio Same Town :) Posts: 10,673 Rep Power: 196 System Specs	whats your power supply fan? __________________ "XTREME AUDIO IS CRAP!" "There no support for it. It's crapist card on face of the earth it should be throw into the sun" http://www.speedtest.net/result/1949536385.png correct the correct one now

Oct 23, 2005, 04:03 AM	#11
Robert McClelland PAX Tweaker, PAX Expert. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Somewhere in Wood County Ohio Same Town :) Posts: 10,673 Rep Power: 196 System Specs	Maybe there something worng with your video card. Might have RMA it. I hope it's not the mother board for ya my agp die on my motherboard I just got replace 3weeks ago __________________ "XTREME AUDIO IS CRAP!" "There no support for it. It's crapist card on face of the earth it should be throw into the sun" http://www.speedtest.net/result/1949536385.png correct the correct one now

Oct 20, 2005, 10:48 PM	Thread Starter #2
Tobey DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 598 Rep Power: 0	^bump

Oct 21, 2005, 03:31 PM	#4
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	I don't think its hardware I think its a case of just software/driver issues

Oct 22, 2005, 07:00 PM	Thread Starter #5
Tobey DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 598 Rep Power: 0	Ok thanks, Ill read those threads and try that out now.

Oct 22, 2005, 09:40 PM	Thread Starter #6
Tobey DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 598 Rep Power: 0	Yeah, no luck still the same problem... Im guessing its a hardware issue now or something.

Oct 23, 2005, 01:57 AM	Thread Starter #8
Tobey DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 598 Rep Power: 0	Tryed the autopatcher idea and that hasnt worked either and yes I do have SP2. I dont know what you mean buy "currect psu" correct psu? or current psu? and what is a psu? Someone suggested it could be my motherboard bios so I updated those and still doesnt work.

Oct 23, 2005, 03:27 AM	Thread Starter #10
Tobey DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 598 Rep Power: 0	Antec Truepower 480w, brand new so that shouldnt be a problem.

Oct 24, 2005, 01:27 AM	#12
Bicka DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 670 Rep Power: 0	Its the drivers, simple as. Just follow my guide(linked above) on using hotkeys to reset your brightness and colour, when playing games and coming out of them, and that'll be the best you can hope for, for now...and forever. The VPU recovery thing was happening to me alot with the older drivers (5.6 through till 5.8). I've been sticking with the Omegadriver 5.9 since they've came out and not gotten one since. Exception being while playing World of Warcraft in certain areas of the game, which has been noted by Blizzard and ATI, so hopefully will be fixed. So at the end of the day, install the Omegadrivers, use the ATT(ATI Tray Tools, great program which comes with the driver) colour/hotkey settings and pray nothing else comes along to screw up your gaming pleasure

Oct 24, 2005, 03:30 AM	Thread Starter #13
Tobey DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 598 Rep Power: 0	so you have the same issue? Is it just the drivers and this card? ATI radeon 9250? If so then Ill just get a different card.

Oct 24, 2005, 05:00 AM	#14
Bicka DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 670 Rep Power: 0	If you read my post, on the link that was provided above by swimtech, you'd know I have the same issue. And its to be blamed fully on the drivers. The colour and brightness settings have never properly worked in the ATI drivers since day 1 of owning my 9800XT. The only reason more people don't care about this fact is that they have monitors that can compensate. My monitor however, and I'd assume yours as well, is already at max brightness and contrast. But still, playing games at default is greatly impossible. So you've 3 options ahead of you: 1. Put up with it, install the Omegadrivers or ATT by itself and continue to keep flicking through hotkeys whenever you load up a game, change resolution and drop back to your desktop. 2. Buy a new monitor with a higher range of brightness. 3. Buy a Nvidia card, which drivers have no problems with remembering profiles. Good luck with whatever you decide.

Oct 24, 2005, 07:25 PM	Thread Starter #15
Tobey DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 598 Rep Power: 0	Thank you for the help.