5.12 Released

**temeteus82** · Dec 9, 2005, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petri1

well mine is R430 so that is why i am confused

Thats odd.. Hope Terry can share some light on this issue.

petri1 · Dec 9, 2005, 04:57 PM

me too ohh Terry where are you Terry LOL

can ya Terry please ....

eva2000 · Dec 9, 2005, 05:00 PM

well here's some 3dmark05 cat 5.11 single core cpu vs cat 5.12 dual core cpu comparisons with X1800XT http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=1910

5.12 definitely good for dual core cpus !

petri1 · Dec 9, 2005, 05:09 PM

maybe that explains the almost 200point jump in 05 then HT draws advetage of these drivers as well or am i wrong???

Sandok · Dec 9, 2005, 05:24 PM

Yes... I got 2 k plus in aquamark with my 3ghz HT PC

Resurrector · Dec 9, 2005, 06:22 PM

I was having issues with CCC loading with .net 2.0. I was over at the rage3d forums and one person said they got it working by starting CCC and let it hang up. Open the task manager and kill the CLI.exe process. Then reopen it again it worked from there on. Even after a reboot. He also mentioned he has the splash screen disabled and hotkey manager disabled. I did these steps too and now mine works. I did have to kill 2 of the CLI.exes for it to work. Hope this helps some of you.

Raptor · Dec 9, 2005, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Resurrector

I was having issues with CCC loading with .net 2.0. I was over at the rage3d forums and one person said they got it working by starting CCC and let it hang up. Open the task manager and kill the CLI.exe process. Then reopen it again it worked from there on. Even after a reboot. He also mentioned he has the splash screen disabled and hotkey manager disabled. I did these steps too and now mine works. I did have to kill 2 of the CLI.exes for it to work. Hope this helps some of you.

Thanks you for this but it didn't help. This is what I did to get the CCC 5.12 Cat's to work. I had .net framework 2.0 installed and NOT 1.1. I uninstalled ATI drivers and CP (CCC) with the XP Add/Remove then with Driver cleaner pro. Uninstalled .net 2.0. Rebooted and installed .net 1.1 and then installed the Cat's 5.12's with CCC and it now works fine. Why the 5.11's worked with .net 2.0 and not the 5.12' is beyond me but there you have it. Hope this helps anyone who is having the same problem as I did.

Dyre Straits · Dec 9, 2005, 07:37 PM

FWIW, re: NET 1.1. vs NET 2.0:

I chatted with a Microsoft Tech Support Professional re: another issue that involved another app not installing unless .NET 1.1 was installed. His comment to me was that .NET 1.1 and .NET 2.0 actually have different functions and that BOTH should be on the system together rather than one vs. the other.

I've also read on here that, in some cases, an app that would normally use .NET 2.0 ends up using .NET 1.1 if it's on the system. Whether that happens in all cases, I don't know. But, for the time being anyway, I have .NET 1.1, the .NET 1.1 Quick Fix, and .NET 2.0 on my system and they all seem to be a happy family.

HsuGotaQ · Dec 9, 2005, 08:35 PM

I've disable hotkeys, system tray and splashscreen, but ATI's CCC is still slow. While in a nice state of "disable everything", I found out (in my case) that it's the damn display detection option that slows CCC down like crazy.

Disable it in the CCC in the Display Options section by selecting Use manual detection only. From what I understand, this function would technically only be used IF you where to plug a different monitor or tv to your video card. Then again, I haven't had time to get more information about this feature.

Anyway, at least now it takes only 2 seconds to get the CCC up and running and to change the 3D options (obviously the only place that would need frequent changes).

SchwarzeFeen · Dec 9, 2005, 09:51 PM

Anyone else having a problem with the damn ati website i cant download the drivers, none ofthe links work... i cant download just the drivers, the whole high speed download pack or anything!

>GSXR<mrbusa · Dec 9, 2005, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SchwarzeFeen

Anyone else having a problem with the damn ati website i cant download the drivers, none ofthe links work... i cant download just the drivers, the whole high speed download pack or anything!

same here,its very very very very very down

ColtIce · Dec 9, 2005, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Resurrector

I was having issues with CCC loading with .net 2.0. I was over at the rage3d forums and one person said they got it working by starting CCC and let it hang up. Open the task manager and kill the CLI.exe process. Then reopen it again it worked from there on. Even after a reboot. He also mentioned he has the splash screen disabled and hotkey manager disabled. I did these steps too and now mine works. I did have to kill 2 of the CLI.exes for it to work. Hope this helps some of you.

that would have been me.it's still working fine for me, matter of fact it's the fastest I think I have ever seen the CCC open.I like this set of drivers so far,the games that I'm playing right now are as smooth as ever and some even seem to be smoother.I quit playing the "benchmark game" a couple of months ago so I couldn't tell how well they do in benches.

Robert McClelland · Dec 9, 2005, 11:14 PM

lol good thing I got other day.

I was getting 5-9kb sec at 45,200 at dialup hehe

If you guys want wait too Tuesday I can upload that to mirrors I might be busy at workshop I have meeting that day too will see what happens

Zardon · Dec 9, 2005, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by >GSXR<mrbusa

same here,its very very very very very down

this is very very very up

bookmark it

rseiler · Dec 10, 2005, 12:56 AM

Browsing ATI's site is always deathly slow for me -- maybe their https implementation (can't figure why it's https in the first place) is faulty. They should have plenty of bandwidth, since when you actually start downloading it's fast.

sc3000 · Dec 10, 2005, 01:04 AM

What the people want the people must get, our the company will be in ruins.

deekey777 · Dec 10, 2005, 01:05 AM

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showpost...0&postcount=91

This stupid bug is still existing - since catalyst 5.7...

>GSXR<mrbusa · Dec 10, 2005, 06:36 AM

thx for letting us have a choice ati,atleast for another month.thats all the ranting is about.i dont even use the cp i use att and have for a long time.eventually when new drivers are written they will need .net to even have there basic functionallity.thats what i am worried about and should never happen..bill 2.0 is going to take over the world and all your pcs,but not mine damnit.its going to be me and bill, one on one, and i am going to kick his ass.

FnF · Dec 10, 2005, 06:52 AM

No problems here with ATYT's site, just use Firefox and FlashGet, and it will be in a few seconds on your HD

crlorentzen · Dec 10, 2005, 07:27 AM

BTW: When is ATi gonna make there website cross-browser compatible? More specifically make the tree use a standard javascript or something so that it isn't fully distended when I enter the driver/technical support area. Am I the only one who is still pissed about this, I mean we told them when they first did it that it sucked and didn't work right, but has it changed in the slightest? I am getting more and more tired of ATi.

Ray Sheppard · Dec 10, 2005, 08:55 AM

After reading all these pages on the demise of the CP and not being a lover of CCC, imagine my surprise when the first page I go to to download the 5.12's offers the usual option of Standard CP.

http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1276

Ray

petri1 · Dec 10, 2005, 12:13 PM

well i made a screen shot of the problem where it shows my card as a X800GTO

and i may say it is a R430 core so if Terry or anyone else can tell me why it is so i would appreciate any help or explanation

IamLakota · Dec 10, 2005, 02:03 PM

Well first I have a question maybe some one can answer,I downloaded,.net 1.1.then .net2.0 and now when I reboot instead of going straight to xp's desktop,I have a login page and have to click on my name to get into windows,when I went to admin it now list ASP.net as an account on my computer,...what the hell is that about???? So before I install 5.12 cats with the ccc,which I have never had luck with but am willing to try the ccc one more time,I'll wait and check back to see if any one can answer my question.

petri1 · Dec 10, 2005, 02:39 PM

well it don´t matter if it is Omega Cat or Dna and so on it still shows as GTO weird is my opinion

-J_B- · Dec 10, 2005, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IamLakota

Well first I have a question maybe some one can answer,I downloaded,.net 1.1.then .net2.0 and now when I reboot instead of going straight to xp's desktop,I have a login page and have to click on my name to get into windows,when I went to admin it now list ASP.net as an account on my computer,...what the hell is that about???? So before I install 5.12 cats with the ccc,which I have never had luck with but am willing to try the ccc one more time,I'll wait and check back to see if any one can answer my question.

Theres a option in the profiles thing, remove the .ASP net account.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Dec 10, 2005, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by deekey777

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showpost...0&postcount=91

This stupid bug is still existing - since catalyst 5.7...

You mean since like 5.10? It been reported but as you can see its not
a serious problem maybe if things where currupted and looked like crap
or if more people noted and reportd it It would probubly get more attention.

Quote:

Originally Posted by petri1

well i made a screen shot of the problem where it shows my card as a X800GTO

and i may say it is a R430 core so if Terry or anyone else can tell me why it is so i would appreciate any help or explanation

I could tell you and I think I told you before. It a matter of a single line entry
in the INF and it has nothing to do with the performace of you card. You card
uses the device ID for a X800GTO , but your cards subsystem ID is not listed
show you card shows as a X800GTO. As that is the matching entry for you
card, If you really worried abour it open the .INF and rename evey X800GTO
line to what you want displayed... Can be anything like X26000XT PE EXtreme
has no effect on the performance of your card.

deekey777 · Dec 10, 2005, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Neon_Cowboy

You mean since like 5.10? It been reported but as you can see its not
a serious problem maybe if things where currupted and looked like crap
or if more people noted and reportd it It would probubly get more attention.

It exits since cat 5.7. If you don't believe me, install it and you will see this bug.

petri1 · Dec 10, 2005, 09:43 PM

well ok Neon i belive ya you been around so ok i´ll chill about ti until and if ever it makes my card behave weird then i might yell out lol

thx for the up

Judas · Dec 10, 2005, 10:56 PM

omfg..

I don't know what you guys are having difficulties with... since the 5.6's, the CCC has been fast as hell, works great... and does everything i just about need it to do very easily.

Top if off, since the 2.0 .net release... i've used 5.10s 5.11, 5.12's now with ZERO issues aside from the little big of an initial load time of the CCC on first start. (when trying to open the CCC).... as far as anything else.. i've yet to see anything else other then a little faster responding CCC with 2.0.

I don't have 1.1 install at all..

Fresh install of xp pro sp2... .net 2.0.... drivers.. and works kickass great.

And for those of you who just don't want to give up.... the day has come.. and you guys were given a choice more then a year ago to expeience the CCC or not. Well, the choice was voted and you guys wanted the orginal old control panel..... be happy you got it this long. Frankly, in comparison to the old, the CCC officially blows it outa the water on any machine i have an ATI card (be it a 7000 ve all the way up to a freshly installed x1800xl including everything between)

Grow up, quit complain and making the moronic stupid comments "This is my last ati card", etc.

Frankly, leave, use NVidia for the next "very few" months they keep there orginal panel yet... as it's going "Bye bye" like ATI has.

IMO, you guys are just irritatingly rediculous....

Chaos · Dec 10, 2005, 11:40 PM

well Judas it's obvious that not everyone has the same response. I had to revert to the previous CCC from 5.11 due to the hanging splash screen with this version. It feels like you are scolding me or talking down to a child. So I guess you are saying I dont know how to make a PC function on my own..... yeah ok right... it's all good

Dec 9, 2005, 04:57 PM	#92
petri1 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 746 Rep Power: 0	me too ohh Terry where are you Terry LOL can ya Terry please .... __________________ [COLOR=#232d35] [COLOR=Red]Intel Core 2 Quad 9450@2,66GHZ PowerColor Ati Radeon HD4870 512mb Gigabyte GaE-X38 4GB Kingston Hyper X [/COLOR] [/COLOR]

Dec 9, 2005, 05:00 PM	#93
eva2000 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 30 Rep Power: 0	well here's some 3dmark05 cat 5.11 single core cpu vs cat 5.12 dual core cpu comparisons with X1800XT http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=1910 5.12 definitely good for dual core cpus ! __________________ 512MB HIS X1800XT: 43,252, 22,076, 12,111, 6,004\| FEAR benchmarks BFG 7800GTX SLI (stock heatsink air): 41,662, 33,309, 16,212, 8,949 BFG 7800GTX single card: 37,590, 21,399, 10,148, 5,740

Dec 9, 2005, 05:09 PM	#94
petri1 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 746 Rep Power: 0	maybe that explains the almost 200point jump in 05 then HT draws advetage of these drivers as well or am i wrong??? __________________ [COLOR=#232d35] [COLOR=Red]Intel Core 2 Quad 9450@2,66GHZ PowerColor Ati Radeon HD4870 512mb Gigabyte GaE-X38 4GB Kingston Hyper X [/COLOR] [/COLOR]

Dec 9, 2005, 06:22 PM	#96
Resurrector DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	People with .NET 2.0 and CCC issues I was having issues with CCC loading with .net 2.0. I was over at the rage3d forums and one person said they got it working by starting CCC and let it hang up. Open the task manager and kill the CLI.exe process. Then reopen it again it worked from there on. Even after a reboot. He also mentioned he has the splash screen disabled and hotkey manager disabled. I did these steps too and now mine works. I did have to kill 2 of the CLI.exes for it to work. Hope this helps some of you. __________________ [color=Red]Fire Dragon[/color] ------------------------------- Athlon64 3700+ Cooled by TT Big Typhoon Abit KV8 Pro v1.1 1Gb Corsair PC3200C2 @ 2-3-2-10 9800Pro Flashed to XT Cat 5.12 160gb Seagate SATA Audigy 2 ZS

Dec 9, 2005, 11:14 PM	#103
Robert McClelland PAX Tweaker, PAX Expert. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Somewhere in Wood County Ohio Same Town :) Posts: 10,668 Rep Power: 196 System Specs	lol good thing I got other day. I was getting 5-9kb sec at 45,200 at dialup hehe If you guys want wait too Tuesday I can upload that to mirrors I might be busy at workshop I have meeting that day too will see what happens __________________ "XTREME AUDIO IS CRAP!" "There no support for it. It's crapist card on face of the earth it should be throw into the sun" http://www.speedtest.net/result/1949536385.png correct the correct one now

Dec 9, 2005, 05:24 PM	#95
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 0	Yes... I got 2 k plus in aquamark with my 3ghz HT PC

Dec 9, 2005, 08:35 PM	#99
HsuGotaQ Hydrogenated Dumbass Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canuckland Posts: 755 Rep Power: 0	I've disable hotkeys, system tray and splashscreen, but ATI's CCC is still slow. While in a nice state of "disable everything", I found out (in my case) that it's the damn display detection option that slows CCC down like crazy. Disable it in the CCC in the Display Options section by selecting Use manual detection only. From what I understand, this function would technically only be used IF you where to plug a different monitor or tv to your video card. Then again, I haven't had time to get more information about this feature. Anyway, at least now it takes only 2 seconds to get the CCC up and running and to change the 3D options (obviously the only place that would need frequent changes).

Dec 9, 2005, 09:51 PM	#100
SchwarzeFeen DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: United States Posts: 38 Rep Power: 0	Anyone else having a problem with the damn ati website i cant download the drivers, none ofthe links work... i cant download just the drivers, the whole high speed download pack or anything!

Dec 10, 2005, 12:56 AM	#105
rseiler DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	Browsing ATI's site is always deathly slow for me -- maybe their https implementation (can't figure why it's https in the first place) is faulty. They should have plenty of bandwidth, since when you actually start downloading it's fast.

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Dec 10, 2005, 01:05 AM	#107
deekey777 Grünschnabel Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Good Old Germany Posts: 285 Rep Power: 0	http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showpost...0&postcount=91 This stupid bug is still existing - since catalyst 5.7... __________________ I know, my english is terrible.

Dec 10, 2005, 06:36 AM	#108
>GSXR<mrbusa im a FREAK Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 2,107 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	thx for letting us have a choice ati,atleast for another month.thats all the ranting is about.i dont even use the cp i use att and have for a long time.eventually when new drivers are written they will need .net to even have there basic functionallity.thats what i am worried about and should never happen..bill 2.0 is going to take over the world and all your pcs,but not mine damnit.its going to be me and bill, one on one, and i am going to kick his ass.

Dec 10, 2005, 06:52 AM	#109
FnF DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 615 Rep Power: 0	No problems here with ATYT's site, just use Firefox and FlashGet, and it will be in a few seconds on your HD __________________ DH and ATI rock!!!!!!!!!!

Dec 10, 2005, 07:27 AM	#110
crlorentzen DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 1,201 Rep Power: 0	BTW: When is ATi gonna make there website cross-browser compatible? More specifically make the tree use a standard javascript or something so that it isn't fully distended when I enter the driver/technical support area. Am I the only one who is still pissed about this, I mean we told them when they first did it that it sucked and didn't work right, but has it changed in the slightest? I am getting more and more tired of ATi. __________________

Dec 10, 2005, 08:55 AM	#111
Ray Sheppard DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 13 Rep Power: 0	After reading all these pages on the demise of the CP and not being a lover of CCC, imagine my surprise when the first page I go to to download the 5.12's offers the usual option of Standard CP. http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1276 Ray

Dec 10, 2005, 12:13 PM	#112
petri1 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 746 Rep Power: 0	well i made a screen shot of the problem where it shows my card as a X800GTO and i may say it is a R430 core so if Terry or anyone else can tell me why it is so i would appreciate any help or explanation __________________ [COLOR=#232d35] [COLOR=Red]Intel Core 2 Quad 9450@2,66GHZ PowerColor Ati Radeon HD4870 512mb Gigabyte GaE-X38 4GB Kingston Hyper X [/COLOR] [/COLOR]

Dec 10, 2005, 02:03 PM	#113
IamLakota HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Viriginia Posts: 552 Rep Power: 0	Well first I have a question maybe some one can answer,I downloaded,.net 1.1.then .net2.0 and now when I reboot instead of going straight to xp's desktop,I have a login page and have to click on my name to get into windows,when I went to admin it now list ASP.net as an account on my computer,...what the hell is that about???? So before I install 5.12 cats with the ccc,which I have never had luck with but am willing to try the ccc one more time,I'll wait and check back to see if any one can answer my question. __________________ Harley Davidson: If You Have To Ask You Wouldn't Understand!!! System Specs: Mobo:Asus P6T Deluxe V2,intel i7 920,2x BFG GTX 250 oc in SLI,Corsair 6gigs tri channel pc12800CL8 2xWD Velociraptor's 2x74gig WD Raptor , X-Fi Fatal1ty Titainium,HANNS-G HG281HD 1080p 28" monitor,Coolermaster HAF/922,PC-PWR&Cooling Sliencer 750,CoolerMaster V8 HSF

Dec 10, 2005, 02:39 PM	#114
petri1 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 746 Rep Power: 0	well it don´t matter if it is Omega Cat or Dna and so on it still shows as GTO weird is my opinion __________________ [COLOR=#232d35] [COLOR=Red]Intel Core 2 Quad 9450@2,66GHZ PowerColor Ati Radeon HD4870 512mb Gigabyte GaE-X38 4GB Kingston Hyper X [/COLOR] [/COLOR]

Dec 10, 2005, 09:43 PM	#118
petri1 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 746 Rep Power: 0	well ok Neon i belive ya you been around so ok i´ll chill about ti until and if ever it makes my card behave weird then i might yell out lol thx for the up __________________ [COLOR=#232d35] [COLOR=Red]Intel Core 2 Quad 9450@2,66GHZ PowerColor Ati Radeon HD4870 512mb Gigabyte GaE-X38 4GB Kingston Hyper X [/COLOR] [/COLOR]

Dec 10, 2005, 11:40 PM	#120
Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,268 Rep Power: 167 System Specs	well Judas it's obvious that not everyone has the same response. I had to revert to the previous CCC from 5.11 due to the hanging splash screen with this version. It feels like you are scolding me or talking down to a child. So I guess you are saying I dont know how to make a PC function on my own..... yeah ok right... it's all good __________________