Avivo Tool up for download

Zardon · Dec 16, 2005, 11:01 PM

ATI have cleared it with us (and other sites) to host the Avivo tool and the PDF user guide as well. It will certainly be of use to some of you ATI users out there.

We are currently working on our Avivo article but in the meantime feel free to snag the guide and the tool from our servers.

download Avivo tool here around 2 megabytes

MindlessOath · Dec 17, 2005, 12:46 AM

i hope someone reverse enginers this to work with other cards. i dunno if it checks the driver or whatever, but im sure someone can trick the software.

Runner3001 · Dec 17, 2005, 01:18 AM

As do I. I disassembled it already but thats as far as im going to be able to go, someone who knows something about it is gonna have to poke around.

tech.Me · Dec 17, 2005, 02:13 AM

Isn't AVIVO available only on AVIVO cards?

nitrousoxide52 · Dec 17, 2005, 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tech.Me

Isn't AVIVO available only on AVIVO cards?

Yep, AVIVO is a hardware capability, it just hast to be triggered by software, like directx, older cards will only work with say 8.0

tech.Me · Dec 17, 2005, 03:23 AM

Ahhh...

So AVIVO wasn't activated on the X1K cards?
But I thought I saw the word "Avivo" on CCC...

ViRuS2k · Dec 17, 2005, 04:24 AM

lol

guess this might come in handy

hey Zardon m8 will this tool come intergrated into CCC with the 5.13 release next week ?

MindlessOath · Dec 18, 2005, 05:02 PM

ok... this application is almost all pure software. they dont use any hardware to do the converting. so it doesnt depend on the x1000 cards yet.

the only reason why ati havent decided to make it for other cards (well 2 reasons) because they dont know what problems could arise and the speed differances, plus the x1000 has support for HARDWARE which will get released in annother version down the line. this will make the application even faster than it already is. not only that but ati wants to make sales on its new cards, not its old ones. i think mabe ati have done some testing and seen that its good the way it is and that little the hardware can do to make it actually better. (possibly).

www.virtualdub.com <---the guy that makes virtualdub may see this technology very helpfull! this could help out the community there, as well as people at www.doom9.org

enjoy.

PolygonParadox · Dec 18, 2005, 05:12 PM

Over at Elite Bastards they have a version for all cards now, unsupported by ATi.

You can get it here: http://www.elitebastards.com/page.ph...d=13054&head=1

MindlessOath · Dec 18, 2005, 05:20 PM

and not only that... but this new technology can be used on ANY video cards. meaning ati will not have an advantage until they make actuall hardware advantage, and then it wouldnt be supported for other cards... and that may mess things up.

yay i see hanners was awake last night :P

from the looks of it... quality is an issue with this tool its fast, but it doesnt come with massive features and compaitibilitys and you cant do what you want. its just for fast decoding... f the quality.

i see a few more releases with bug fixes and better functions but quality wont be around until the actuall hardware support comes in.

lordtoran · Dec 18, 2005, 10:52 PM

Hmmm ... I played around a bit with the AVIVO codec that is installed by the tool. The ATI MPEG Decoder filter only seems to support MPEG-2 and DivX at this time. MPEG-1, XVid and WMV files still play back via their appropriate decoder filters even when you lower their merits to 00200000 ("don't use").

Found out using Graphedit from the DirectX SDK, RadLight Filter Manager and Media Player Classic.

The good news: You can uninstall DivX when you have the AVIVO codec

The_Neon_Cowboy · Dec 19, 2005, 04:14 AM

Done in software???, the tool is software that uses your graphics cards "hardware" to do the grunt work (acellerate the processing).
.
....Oh wait but then again you useing refering to an "alterd" "unsupported"
"unkown" version then of course "god knows" knows ....

FnF · Dec 19, 2005, 06:07 AM

Yes, I think it will be possible to modify it...

Hanners · Dec 19, 2005, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Neon_Cowboy

Done in software???, the tool is software that uses your graphics cards "hardware" to do the grunt work (acellerate the processing).

Wrong. AVIVO video converter in its current form does not use any form of GPU acceleration.

deekey777 · Dec 19, 2005, 11:36 AM

AVIVO video converter runs in hardware - in your CPU.

MindlessOath · Dec 19, 2005, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Neon_Cowboy

Done in software???, the tool is software that uses your graphics cards "hardware" to do the grunt work (acellerate the processing).
.
....Oh wait but then again you useing refering to an "alterd" "unsupported"
"unkown" version then of course "god knows" knows ....

neon... you still dont know the truth about this? i would have thought you would know. this is all just the cobra code engine doing its work. its also using limited quality settings... it doesnt include certain features like say b frames and various other code paths that are quality based. the hardware wont be implimented until later, and you can do the math if you wish by running both versions on the same video card. hell run it on nvidia and run it on ati... you will notice their is no differnce because its not based on the GPU YET.

the reason why it requires the x1000 is only because it has a preventive measure... basically an if statement, remove it and we use it with any card. that is until they release hardware support where their will be errors and bugs when used with cards that are not compaitible.

how much will hardware itself accelerate this application? im not 100% sure about that, i would guess it would just decrease the amount of CPU % and thats about it.

FnF · Dec 19, 2005, 04:20 PM

You guys should test this:
http://www.elitebastards.com/page.ph...d=13054&head=1
I have it working on my 9800XT

Enjoy!

higgledyhiggles · Dec 19, 2005, 04:28 PM

quick question, why would I use this over another encoder ? say divx codec (or other) inside virtualdub or tmpgenc etc ?
what are the advantages ? (i guess if gpu support was working it would be hardware acceleration maybe ? ) but if so will it do that to divx etc. because if not why would I limit playback of files to a format (ati codec say) that not everyone can play ?
I just cant see any info explaining this. or maybe I`ve gone blind with all the christmas booze...
higgles

Randomletters · Dec 19, 2005, 04:29 PM

installing it now to work on my comp with a 6800gt

MindlessOath · Dec 19, 2005, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by higgledyhiggles

quick question, why would I use this over another encoder ? say divx codec (or other) inside virtualdub or tmpgenc etc ?
what are the advantages ? (i guess if gpu support was working it would be hardware acceleration maybe ? ) but if so will it do that to divx etc. because if not why would I limit playback of files to a format (ati codec say) that not everyone can play ?
I just cant see any info explaining this. or maybe I`ve gone blind with all the christmas booze...
higgles

i belive i suggested the answer to this already... just read. :P

anyways its only faster... the other method of doing this is far better quality and many more options to customize what you want. dont use this unless you dont care about quality.

MindlessOath · Dec 20, 2005, 03:52 AM

the pro's say this...

Quote:

alright, I put it through the qualification round. It's fast alright but quality is nowhere near enough to qualify.. it's the worst AVC encoder I've ever seen. And to boot, for some reason the ateme mp4 splitter has issues with it.. when it is activated I only get audio (I created a raw stream from graphedit, muxed via mp4box), and ffdshow seems to have some other issues with it as every now and then I get a frame of extreme blocking.

ati wants a codec and they have it... the hardware better make up for the lack of what a codec they have. they can simply impliment this all into software but it would be slower.

lordtoran · Dec 20, 2005, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MindlessOath

its also using limited quality settings... it doesnt include certain features like say b frames and various other code paths that are quality based.

You actually can fine-tune the transcoder, not from within its GUI, but via the property pages of the DirectShow filters. You need a free program named RadLight Filter Manager 1.4. Once you have downloaded, unpacked and started it, open "DirectShow Filters" in the tree view. Select ATI MPEG Audio Encoder, ATI MPEG Multiplexer, ATI MPEG Video Encoder or ATI Video Scaler Filter and press the "Property Page" button to access the settings.

MindlessOath · Dec 20, 2005, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordtoran

You actually can fine-tune the transcoder, not from within its GUI, but via the property pages of the DirectShow filters. You need a free program named RadLight Filter Manager 1.4. Once you have downloaded, unpacked and started it, open "DirectShow Filters" in the tree view. Select ATI MPEG Audio Encoder, ATI MPEG Multiplexer, ATI MPEG Video Encoder or ATI Video Scaler Filter and press the "Property Page" button to access the settings.

yup thats true.. but limited still.

talos_2002 · Dec 20, 2005, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MindlessOath

and not only that... but this new technology can be used on ANY video cards.

Working with other cards may be good for ATI.
If it works satisfactory, it will be a good way to attrack new customers from all other vga brands and also boost their image as a vendor producing high quality products.

MindlessOath · Dec 21, 2005, 01:57 PM

huh? thats marketing mumbo jumbo. what you mean is they can sell there code to people and make a profit... since it works on all cards it would be more for lack of a better term 'better'

enjoy - marketing mumbo jumbo doesnt make sence to anyone, its made to confuse and not really point out the real subject and matter.

ViRuS2k · Dec 21, 2005, 09:01 PM

ahhh another problem, i seem to be getting problems right left and center at the mo lol

this AVIVO Converter doesnt work on X64 OS

MindlessOath · Dec 22, 2005, 12:34 AM

well... like said above, you can try and manually load it through 3rd party applications. see if that works. it might just be the app that wont run on your x64

Dyre Straits · Dec 22, 2005, 08:13 AM

The elitebastards link has been removed due to bandwidth limitations.

Those who still want it [the cracked version], guru3d has it:

http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1281

ghost_zero · Mar 11, 2006, 08:58 AM

On x64 just download and install from the ATI MultiMediaCenter (32Bit) the Encoder and you should get the Avivo Video Converter available in the Basic-View of the ControlCenter, available here:
http://support.ati.com/ics/support/K...uestionID=1157

Dec 16, 2005, 11:01 PM	#1
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	Avivo Tool up for download ATI have cleared it with us (and other sites) to host the Avivo tool and the PDF user guide as well. It will certainly be of use to some of you ATI users out there. We are currently working on our Avivo article but in the meantime feel free to snag the guide and the tool from our servers. download Avivo tool here around 2 megabytes

Dec 17, 2005, 12:46 AM	#2
MindlessOath DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,121 Rep Power: 0	i hope someone reverse enginers this to work with other cards. i dunno if it checks the driver or whatever, but im sure someone can trick the software. __________________ ATI Radeon X800XT PE <---- LOOK UPDATED!! AMD Athlon 2Ghz, nforce2, 512mb ddr3500 LINKS U SHOULD KNOW!!!! DriverCleaner - use every time u install new drivers! ATI driver feedback - to report driver problems Tacticalcenter - my Gaming website and forums ATI 3rd party Optimized Driver Compairison

Dec 17, 2005, 02:13 AM	#4
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Dec 17, 2005, 03:23 AM	#6
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Dec 18, 2005, 05:02 PM	#8
MindlessOath DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,121 Rep Power: 0	ok... this application is almost all pure software. they dont use any hardware to do the converting. so it doesnt depend on the x1000 cards yet. the only reason why ati havent decided to make it for other cards (well 2 reasons) because they dont know what problems could arise and the speed differances, plus the x1000 has support for HARDWARE which will get released in annother version down the line. this will make the application even faster than it already is. not only that but ati wants to make sales on its new cards, not its old ones. i think mabe ati have done some testing and seen that its good the way it is and that little the hardware can do to make it actually better. (possibly). www.virtualdub.com <---the guy that makes virtualdub may see this technology very helpfull! this could help out the community there, as well as people at www.doom9.org enjoy. __________________ ATI Radeon X800XT PE <---- LOOK UPDATED!! AMD Athlon 2Ghz, nforce2, 512mb ddr3500 LINKS U SHOULD KNOW!!!! DriverCleaner - use every time u install new drivers! ATI driver feedback - to report driver problems Tacticalcenter - my Gaming website and forums ATI 3rd party Optimized Driver Compairison

Dec 17, 2005, 01:18 AM	#3
Runner3001 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 41 Rep Power: 0	As do I. I disassembled it already but thats as far as im going to be able to go, someone who knows something about it is gonna have to poke around.

Dec 17, 2005, 04:24 AM	#7
ViRuS2k HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Uk Posts: 8,334 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	lol guess this might come in handy hey Zardon m8 will this tool come intergrated into CCC with the 5.13 release next week ?

Dec 18, 2005, 05:12 PM	#9
PolygonParadox DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 110 Rep Power: 0	Over at Elite Bastards they have a version for all cards now, unsupported by ATi. You can get it here: http://www.elitebastards.com/page.ph...d=13054&head=1 __________________ 3200+ XP (400) A7N8X Deluxe 2.0 1 GB OCsystem DDR 3200 LL BBA 9800

Dec 18, 2005, 05:20 PM	#10
MindlessOath DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,121 Rep Power: 0	and not only that... but this new technology can be used on ANY video cards. meaning ati will not have an advantage until they make actuall hardware advantage, and then it wouldnt be supported for other cards... and that may mess things up. yay i see hanners was awake last night :P from the looks of it... quality is an issue with this tool its fast, but it doesnt come with massive features and compaitibilitys and you cant do what you want. its just for fast decoding... f the quality. i see a few more releases with bug fixes and better functions but quality wont be around until the actuall hardware support comes in. __________________ ATI Radeon X800XT PE <---- LOOK UPDATED!! AMD Athlon 2Ghz, nforce2, 512mb ddr3500 LINKS U SHOULD KNOW!!!! DriverCleaner - use every time u install new drivers! ATI driver feedback - to report driver problems Tacticalcenter - my Gaming website and forums ATI 3rd party Optimized Driver Compairison

Dec 18, 2005, 10:52 PM	#11
lordtoran DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bochum, NRW, Germany Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	Hmmm ... I played around a bit with the AVIVO codec that is installed by the tool. The ATI MPEG Decoder filter only seems to support MPEG-2 and DivX at this time. MPEG-1, XVid and WMV files still play back via their appropriate decoder filters even when you lower their merits to 00200000 ("don't use"). Found out using Graphedit from the DirectX SDK, RadLight Filter Manager and Media Player Classic. The good news: You can uninstall DivX when you have the AVIVO codec __________________ Abit AX8 2.0 - Athlon 64 3200+ Venice - 1.5 gig DDR400 RAM (Infineon) - GeCube Radeon X1800XL (7250 in 3DMark05) - 120 GB + 250 GB HD, both Maxtor - NEC 3540A + NEC 2510A DVD writers - Enermax 535W PSU - Windows Server 2003 + Mandriva Linux 2006 How to silence and cool down your X1800XL only using ATITool: Look here!

Dec 19, 2005, 04:14 AM	#12
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	Done in software???, the tool is software that uses your graphics cards "hardware" to do the grunt work (acellerate the processing). . ....Oh wait but then again you useing refering to an "alterd" "unsupported" "unkown" version then of course "god knows" knows .... __________________

Dec 19, 2005, 06:07 AM	#13
FnF DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 615 Rep Power: 0	Yes, I think it will be possible to modify it... __________________ DH and ATI rock!!!!!!!!!!

Dec 19, 2005, 11:36 AM	#15
deekey777 Grünschnabel Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Good Old Germany Posts: 285 Rep Power: 0	AVIVO video converter runs in hardware - in your CPU. __________________ I know, my english is terrible.

Dec 19, 2005, 04:20 PM	#17
FnF DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 615 Rep Power: 0	You guys should test this: http://www.elitebastards.com/page.ph...d=13054&head=1 I have it working on my 9800XT Enjoy! __________________ DH and ATI rock!!!!!!!!!!

Dec 19, 2005, 04:28 PM	#18
higgledyhiggles DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 116 Rep Power: 0	quick question, why would I use this over another encoder ? say divx codec (or other) inside virtualdub or tmpgenc etc ? what are the advantages ? (i guess if gpu support was working it would be hardware acceleration maybe ? ) but if so will it do that to divx etc. because if not why would I limit playback of files to a format (ati codec say) that not everyone can play ? I just cant see any info explaining this. or maybe I`ve gone blind with all the christmas booze... higgles

Dec 19, 2005, 04:29 PM	#19
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Dec 21, 2005, 01:57 PM	#25
MindlessOath DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,121 Rep Power: 0	huh? thats marketing mumbo jumbo. what you mean is they can sell there code to people and make a profit... since it works on all cards it would be more for lack of a better term 'better' enjoy - marketing mumbo jumbo doesnt make sence to anyone, its made to confuse and not really point out the real subject and matter. __________________ ATI Radeon X800XT PE <---- LOOK UPDATED!! AMD Athlon 2Ghz, nforce2, 512mb ddr3500 LINKS U SHOULD KNOW!!!! DriverCleaner - use every time u install new drivers! ATI driver feedback - to report driver problems Tacticalcenter - my Gaming website and forums ATI 3rd party Optimized Driver Compairison

Dec 21, 2005, 09:01 PM	#26
ViRuS2k HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Uk Posts: 8,334 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	ahhh another problem, i seem to be getting problems right left and center at the mo lol this AVIVO Converter doesnt work on X64 OS

Dec 22, 2005, 12:34 AM	#27
MindlessOath DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,121 Rep Power: 0	well... like said above, you can try and manually load it through 3rd party applications. see if that works. it might just be the app that wont run on your x64 __________________ ATI Radeon X800XT PE <---- LOOK UPDATED!! AMD Athlon 2Ghz, nforce2, 512mb ddr3500 LINKS U SHOULD KNOW!!!! DriverCleaner - use every time u install new drivers! ATI driver feedback - to report driver problems Tacticalcenter - my Gaming website and forums ATI 3rd party Optimized Driver Compairison

Mar 11, 2006, 08:58 AM	#29
ghost_zero DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 62 Rep Power: 0	On x64 just download and install from the ATI MultiMediaCenter (32Bit) the Encoder and you should get the Avivo Video Converter available in the Basic-View of the ControlCenter, available here: http://support.ati.com/ics/support/K...uestionID=1157