5.13 beta out

kelticknight · Dec 17, 2005, 10:05 PM

5.13 beta drivers out at
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1280

Socio · Dec 18, 2005, 12:31 AM

I tried them and as with the 5.12's CCC still locks up on the splash screen.

ViRuS2k · Dec 18, 2005, 03:29 AM

hehe doesnt lock up for me

WOW what a diffrence in the VID department and CCC also starts up WAY FASTER LOL
its like nearly instantly now :o

Customgamer1 · Dec 18, 2005, 04:21 AM

ATI does 5.12 meaning 2005 and 12 as in december?? whats up with that? As far as I know there is no 13th month?????

Tipstaff · Dec 18, 2005, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Customgamer1

ATI does 5.12 meaning 2005 and 12 as in december?? whats up with that? As far as I know there is no 13th month?????

Cat 5.13 will be a Christmas gift for ATI fanboys. It's also a way for ATI to end the year with a memoriable bang. Google around for info on what the Cat 5.13s will bring (btw, after these come out you watch Nvidia release PureVideo for free).

Indications are that we should see them Dec. 21rst.

fabiaN- · Dec 18, 2005, 05:21 AM

do these drivers give better performance for games ?

reholli · Dec 18, 2005, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Socio

I tried them and as with the 5.12's CCC still locks up on the splash screen.

Are you running .NET 1.1? 5.12 (and possibly 5.13) will not work with .NET 2.0 by itself for most users....NET 1.1 is specified as a requirement.

-J_B- · Dec 18, 2005, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by fabiaN-

do these drivers give better performance for games ?

I'll bump that, BF2?

Adagio · Dec 18, 2005, 10:05 AM

On more mirror: http://3dfusion.de/downloads/

Socio · Dec 18, 2005, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reholli

Are you running .NET 1.1? 5.12 (and possibly 5.13) will not work with .NET 2.0 by itself for most users....NET 1.1 is specified as a requirement.

I have been running .net 2.0 and have no problems with previous CCC's but installed 1.1 and its patches now it works.

Sandok · Dec 18, 2005, 02:23 PM

The 5.13 are only going to bring (from what I read) mostly changes for the X1k series (especially AVIVO) and I know that I won't be installing these

But who knows?

Ib Al-Musaheb · Dec 18, 2005, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandok

The 5.13 are only going to bring (from what I read) mostly changes for the X1k series (especially AVIVO)

w0rd ?

I wanna have a performance gain in my games !
Btw, it seems my card is damaged (due to high overclocking

) and I need a new one ...

Luckily, these are beta drivers and we don't know, yet, what ATI is going to ship out to us on Christmas. I'll start praying.

ViRuS2k · Dec 18, 2005, 03:50 PM

hmmm well these beta 5.13 drivers dont come with the transcoder tool
so i guess these are a early 5.13 beta...... wonder what more ati have got in store for us next week hmmmm

i would also like to see more gameing performance aswell as NFS MW SHADOWS FIXED.

also the transcodeing tool will we see XVID added to the list to vid formats to convert ????? its a pritty important vid that most people use for there movies ect....

also what would be good is Joining like if you have 2 XVID or SVCD files that need joined to make one hole movie that needs added aswell....

Tipstaff · Dec 19, 2005, 01:36 AM

Ontop of what has been discussed:

- Transcoder tool is seperate with the betas.

- Encoding video is faster

- DXVA supported video software (like PowerDVD) will see improvment in video quality, and performance

- There are bug fixes (but you will have to wait until Wed/Thurs. to find out what unless a little birdy decides to drop by to let us know)(que - Terry)

- Added support for X1600 cards

That about sums it up.

If your not willing to try the drivers out to see for yourself if they fix problems with certain games then I say wait until Wednesday/Thursday for the official drivers, and the official release notes. Besides, in all likely hood you will switch to the official drivers from the betas anyways, so why not just wait?

ViRuS2k · Dec 19, 2005, 03:32 AM

Tipstaff i have PowerDVD v6, latest version i think lol
is the - DXVA supported with this version i have or havent powerdvd released it yet ???
if not is there a standalone DXVA download that works with powerdvd or will they come with a full release when the drivers are released officialy.....

dont know why im asking you all these questions your not a beta tester are you hehe

Tipstaff · Dec 19, 2005, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ViRuS2k

Tipstaff i have PowerDVD v6, latest version i think lol
is the - DXVA supported with this version i have or havent powerdvd released it yet ???
if not is there a standalone DXVA download that works with powerdvd or will they come with a full release when the drivers are released officialy.....

dont know why im asking you all these questions your not a beta tester are you hehe

I haven't tried the new driver yet, but if you load up PowerDVD, and go into the settings it'll tell you what type of video acceleration it is using. For that open up PowerDVD, then right-click the window, and select configuration from the menu (or select the hammer/screwdriver icon from the PowerDVD taskbar). Then select the "Information" tab. This will tell you what is being used. I should point out that since you won't be running a movie at the time it will show it as not in use, however if you load a movie, and then check it will be.

Edit: Know what? What the hell.. I think I might try these drivers out after all.

DevTech · Dec 19, 2005, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tipstaff

I haven't tried the new driver yet, but if you load up PowerDVD, and go into the settings it'll tell you what type of video acceleration it is using. For that open up PowerDVD, then right-click the window, and select configuration from the menu (or select the hammer/screwdriver icon from the PowerDVD taskbar). Then select the "Information" tab. This will tell you what is being used. I should point out that since you won't be running a movie at the time it will show it as not in use, however if you load a movie, and then check it will be.

Edit: Know what? What the hell.. I think I might try these drivers out after all.

Is the DXVA acceleration only enabled if you don't have something else (such as divx 6) decoding the video?

Falstaff · Dec 19, 2005, 03:07 PM

tried them...
no real difference..

ViRuS2k · Dec 19, 2005, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tipstaff

I haven't tried the new driver yet, but if you load up PowerDVD, and go into the settings it'll tell you what type of video acceleration it is using. For that open up PowerDVD, then right-click the window, and select configuration from the menu (or select the hammer/screwdriver icon from the PowerDVD taskbar). Then select the "Information" tab. This will tell you what is being used. I should point out that since you won't be running a movie at the time it will show it as not in use, however if you load a movie, and then check it will be.

Edit: Know what? What the hell.. I think I might try these drivers out after all.

well something strange here i guess the new Quality and hardware Codec isnt being used yet in the latest version of powerdvd.

i tryed playing a movie on my powerdvd + X1800XTPE + 5.13 Installed
and here is the info i got from power dvd....

Display Information:
Video Mode: Progressive
Display Mode: DirectDraw
FourCC Code: YUY2
Surface Type: Overlay

Video Attributes:
Video compression mode: MPEG-2
TV system: 625/50 (PAL)
Aspect Ratio: 16:9
Display Mode: Only Letterbox
Source picture resolution: 720x576 (625/50)
Frame Rate: 25.00
Source picture letterboxed: Not letterboxed
Bitrate: 4.16Mbps

Audio Attributes:
Audio Coding mode: Dolby Digital
Sampling Rate: 48kHz
Audio application mode: Not specified
Number of Audio channels: 6
Bitrate: 448 Kbps
Number of Audio streams: 3

Subpicture Attribute:
Number of Subtitles: 4

Hardware Information:
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+ running at 2611 MHz
3DNow! Technology: In Use
Enhanced 3DNow! Technology: In Use
3DNow! Professional Technology: In Use
IA MMX Technology: In Use
IA Streaming SIMD Extensions: In Use
IA SSE 2: In Use
Video Accelerator: DirectX VA (not in use)
Multispeaker Audio Device: Realtek AC97 Audio (not in use)
SPDIF Output Device: Realtek AC97 Audio (in use)

guess im screwed lol

Tipstaff · Dec 19, 2005, 10:59 PM

Check it while your playing a movie. Also, make sure that under the Video tab that hardware acceleration is checked on.

ViRuS2k · Dec 20, 2005, 02:30 AM

ok im moveing to X64 tonight, anyone know where i can get the 5.13 Catalyst Beta x64 drivers.

as the above is only X32

ViRuS2k · Dec 20, 2005, 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tipstaff

Check it while your playing a movie. Also, make sure that under the Video tab that hardware acceleration is checked on.

hmm it works when i check that hardware acceleration tab problem is i loose there CLEV -2 Eagle Vision, wich is far better than there others, you see when its ticked CLEV gets blanked out

i dont think this powerdvd i have is FULLY AVIVO yet
becuse i tryed playing a H264 Apple trailer download and it wouldnt play it.
and why cant i get CLEV vision when i select hardware becuse you would think it would run super with hardware and that setting enabled. :/

reholli · Dec 20, 2005, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ViRuS2k

hmm it works when i check that hardware acceleration tab problem is i loose there CLEV -2 Eagle Vision, wich is far better than there others, you see when its ticked CLEV gets blanked out

i dont think this powerdvd i have is FULLY AVIVO yet
becuse i tryed playing a H264 Apple trailer download and it wouldnt play it.
and why cant i get CLEV vision when i select hardware becuse you would think it would run super with hardware and that setting enabled. :/

Features like CLEV in software DVD players like PowerDVD and WinDVD are usually mutually exclusive with hardware acceleration, i.e., they don't work/are greyed out.

Judas · Dec 20, 2005, 10:07 PM

guess we'll know if they are indeed going official tomorrow hye?

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Dec 20, 2005, 10:15 PM

how about some r3xx performance benefits and the NFSMW shadows fix!!?!?!

Judas · Dec 20, 2005, 10:17 PM

Um... no.... aside from OpenGL improvements.. i doubt we'll see anything more coming from the r3xx series at all... enless there are some obvious performance problems in some newer games/or older)...

Skanks · Dec 20, 2005, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reholli

Features like CLEV in software DVD players like PowerDVD and WinDVD are usually mutually exclusive with hardware acceleration, i.e., they don't work/are greyed out.

Personally I'd rather have the nicer hardware acceleration than the artificially contrased image CLEV produces

Judas · Dec 20, 2005, 10:19 PM

I'm sure most are looking forward to the .net 2.0 support only.... fix....

Alex T. · Dec 21, 2005, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Judas

I'm sure most are looking forward to the .net 2.0 support only.... fix....

Seconded!

ViRuS2k · Dec 21, 2005, 10:12 AM

well i just found out that you have to pay for POWERDVD`s

MPEG 4 AVC (H.264) Pack = $24,95 this sucks

Install MPEG 2/4 AAC Pack = $19,95 thi sucks

so much for ATI working with POWERDVD, but still ATI customers get screwed becuse POWERDVD are so greedy and require us X1800XT owners to buy there shit.

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Tipstaff HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Real capital of Canada: Torauna Posts: 6,773 Rep Power: 191 System Specs	Ontop of what has been discussed: - Transcoder tool is seperate with the betas. - Encoding video is faster - DXVA supported video software (like PowerDVD) will see improvment in video quality, and performance - There are bug fixes (but you will have to wait until Wed/Thurs. to find out what unless a little birdy decides to drop by to let us know)(que - Terry) - Added support for X1600 cards That about sums it up. If your not willing to try the drivers out to see for yourself if they fix problems with certain games then I say wait until Wednesday/Thursday for the official drivers, and the official release notes. Besides, in all likely hood you will switch to the official drivers from the betas anyways, so why not just wait? __________________ Portal: The Flash Version _________________________________ Brain: So, you sacked the cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker? Mr. Sackett: The second cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker I've sacked since the sixth sitting sheet slitter got sick.

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Socio DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 82 Rep Power: 0	I tried them and as with the 5.12's CCC still locks up on the splash screen.

Dec 18, 2005, 03:29 AM	#3
ViRuS2k HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Uk Posts: 8,334 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	hehe doesnt lock up for me WOW what a diffrence in the VID department and CCC also starts up WAY FASTER LOL its like nearly instantly now :o

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fabiaN- DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	do these drivers give better performance for games ?

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Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 0	The 5.13 are only going to bring (from what I read) mostly changes for the X1k series (especially AVIVO) and I know that I won't be installing these But who knows?

Dec 18, 2005, 03:50 PM	#13
ViRuS2k HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Uk Posts: 8,334 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	hmmm well these beta 5.13 drivers dont come with the transcoder tool so i guess these are a early 5.13 beta...... wonder what more ati have got in store for us next week hmmmm i would also like to see more gameing performance aswell as NFS MW SHADOWS FIXED. also the transcodeing tool will we see XVID added to the list to vid formats to convert ????? its a pritty important vid that most people use for there movies ect.... also what would be good is Joining like if you have 2 XVID or SVCD files that need joined to make one hole movie that needs added aswell....

Dec 19, 2005, 03:32 AM	#15
ViRuS2k HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Uk Posts: 8,334 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Tipstaff i have PowerDVD v6, latest version i think lol is the - DXVA supported with this version i have or havent powerdvd released it yet ??? if not is there a standalone DXVA download that works with powerdvd or will they come with a full release when the drivers are released officialy..... dont know why im asking you all these questions your not a beta tester are you hehe

Dec 19, 2005, 10:59 PM	#20
Tipstaff HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Real capital of Canada: Torauna Posts: 6,773 Rep Power: 191 System Specs	Check it while your playing a movie. Also, make sure that under the Video tab that hardware acceleration is checked on. __________________ Portal: The Flash Version _________________________________ Brain: So, you sacked the cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker? Mr. Sackett: The second cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker I've sacked since the sixth sitting sheet slitter got sick.

Dec 20, 2005, 02:30 AM	#21
ViRuS2k HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Uk Posts: 8,334 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	ok im moveing to X64 tonight, anyone know where i can get the 5.13 Catalyst Beta x64 drivers. as the above is only X32

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Dec 21, 2005, 10:12 AM	#30
ViRuS2k HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Uk Posts: 8,334 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	well i just found out that you have to pay for POWERDVD`s MPEG 4 AVC (H.264) Pack = $24,95 this sucks Install MPEG 2/4 AAC Pack = $19,95 thi sucks so much for ATI working with POWERDVD, but still ATI customers get screwed becuse POWERDVD are so greedy and require us X1800XT owners to buy there shit.