AGP 8x problems

Orcymorky · Jan 29, 2006, 07:12 PM

Gah I just don't get it. My motherboard has an agp8x slot. Yet when i go to agp8x...

When i play guild wars my computer crashes, and when i play battlefield 2 weird splotches and squares of colour (hills have bright green, blue, red, turqoise, etc. coloured squares on them) of colour appear on textures, and smoke effects turn into floating gray squares. Also, soldiers grow spikes out of them.

BUT when i play at agp 4x, all the problems go away. I know, i know, i could just play at 4x, but it does bug me that i get all these wierd problems at 8x.

I have a radeon 9800 pro 128mb, and fastwrite is off if that matters.

Help please?

Pesticle · Jan 29, 2006, 07:58 PM

What motherboard do you have?

Orcymorky · Jan 29, 2006, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pesticle

What motherboard do you have?

ECS L4S8A2. I think it came in a hyperthread version, but i got the regular one

EvaUnitXIV · Jan 30, 2006, 12:34 AM

same thing happened to me with my sapphire 9800p

drop to 4x agp

Customgamer1 · Jan 30, 2006, 01:14 AM

Same thing happens to me with a asus mobo, 9800 pro 128 mb. I am starting to think that the 9800's have something wrong with how it was built...

Pesticle · Jan 30, 2006, 12:24 PM

Well, I successfully ran AGP 8x on my old Asus board.

I'm using an ASrock now, and I had to uninstall my video drivers, and find the latest AGP driver from the chipset driver and install that again before the video drivers.

It seems to work now.

Orcymorky · Jan 30, 2006, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pesticle

Well, I successfully ran AGP 8x on my old Asus board.

I'm using an ASrock now, and I had to uninstall my video drivers, and find the latest AGP driver from the chipset driver and install that again before the video drivers.

It seems to work now.

I've done that before, just not in that order. I'll give it a shot.

Orcymorky · Jan 30, 2006, 04:11 PM

Damn, didn't work. Any other suggestions anyone?

Matth · Jan 30, 2006, 04:56 PM

Other than trying the Sis AGP driver version 1.21, and perhaps a BIOS update if available, not much to suggest.

Ensure that the PSU rating, particularly on the 12v rail, is adequate, as perhaps 8x operation just tips it over the edge.

Sis chipsets can be a little quirky, especially in the AGP and USB areas. It also seems to be better not to use the SiS IDE driver, as the Microsoft driver in XP SP2 seems to be a lot smoother - for older operaing systems, the Sis IDE is probably worth using.

cause_of_chaos · Jan 30, 2006, 06:09 PM

My bro has a 9800 PRO, and used to have a SIS motherboard. He used to have lots of probs, like funky textures and random crashes. No ammount of updating drivers fixed the problem. Then he upgraded to an Nforce2 Ultra 400 mobo, and all the problems went away.

cause_of_chaos

Rasta Monsta · Jan 30, 2006, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Orcymorky

Damn, didn't work. Any other suggestions anyone?

Yeah, just run it at 4X if it works. There are dozens of articles online demonstrating that there is a tiny difference in performance between 8X and 4X, and actual performance decreases are possible with some systems.

You aren't losing anything, don't worry about it.

rasta

Wildman95gs-t · Jan 30, 2006, 10:42 PM

Could this be the same problem i am having with my sons system, i replaced his fx5200 ultra with a 9800 pro 128 mb card, he has an Asus A7N266-C motherboard that only has a pro/4x agp slot. When i installed driver, there is a utility "SMARTGART(tm)" that clocks the agp slot back to 1x for stability, when i change it to 4x, it will not stay changing back to 1x, This makes no sence to me when everyone is trying to overclock, flash bios to xt to make thing run faster. How can i get around this

cause_of_chaos · Jan 30, 2006, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wildman95gs-t

Could this be the same problem i am having with my sons system, i replaced his fx5200 ultra with a 9800 pro 128 mb card, he has an Asus A7N266-C motherboard that only has a pro/4x agp slot. When i installed driver, there is a utility "SMARTGART(tm)" that clocks the agp slot back to 1x for stability, when i change it to 4x, it will not stay changing back to 1x, This makes no sence to me when everyone is trying to overclock, flash bios to xt to make thing run faster. How can i get around this

Download and install the GART drivers in the Nforce2 drivers that are on the Nvidia website. Usually, if the AGP settings keep reseting, it usually indicates that the GART drivers are old or not installed. Try it

cause_of_chaos

Wildman95gs-t · Jan 31, 2006, 12:13 AM

My son's board is an old nforce but uses the same chipset drivers from nVidia as my nforce2, i installed the 5.10's then i reset the agp setting to 4x and rebooted and it stuck like a hair in a biscuit. Thanks cause_of_chaos

cause_of_chaos · Jan 31, 2006, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wildman95gs-t

My son's board is an old nforce but uses the same chipset drivers from nVidia as my nforce2, i installed the 5.10's then i reset the agp setting to 4x and rebooted and it stuck like a hair in a biscuit. Thanks cause_of_chaos

np mate we are all here to help

cause_of_chaos

Jan 29, 2006, 07:12 PM	#1
Orcymorky DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 82 Rep Power: 0	AGP 8x problems Gah I just don't get it. My motherboard has an agp8x slot. Yet when i go to agp8x... When i play guild wars my computer crashes, and when i play battlefield 2 weird splotches and squares of colour (hills have bright green, blue, red, turqoise, etc. coloured squares on them) of colour appear on textures, and smoke effects turn into floating gray squares. Also, soldiers grow spikes out of them. BUT when i play at agp 4x, all the problems go away. I know, i know, i could just play at 4x, but it does bug me that i get all these wierd problems at 8x. I have a radeon 9800 pro 128mb, and fastwrite is off if that matters. Help please?

Jan 30, 2006, 12:34 AM	#4
EvaUnitXIV DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 229 Rep Power: 0	same thing happened to me with my sapphire 9800p drop to 4x agp __________________ AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Abit KV8 Buffalo 2x512mb PC3200 ram 40GB Maxtor 7200rpm HD (Boot) 2x250GB WD SE 8mb Cache 7200rpm HD (Filedump) Benq 1620 Pro Liteon 1635s x800GTO @ x800XL SB Audigy Gamer WinXp Pro /w Sp2

Jan 30, 2006, 01:14 AM	#5
Customgamer1 Fell off the tech wagon Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,273 Rep Power: 74 System Specs	Same thing happens to me with a asus mobo, 9800 pro 128 mb. I am starting to think that the 9800's have something wrong with how it was built... __________________ Asus Laptop: 2.5 Intel Core 2 Duo, 4gigs DDR 2, Windows 7 64bit! Windows 7 > OSX!

Jan 30, 2006, 06:09 PM	#10
cause_of_chaos SEGA Europe Limited Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: London, United Kingdom Posts: 133 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	My bro has a 9800 PRO, and used to have a SIS motherboard. He used to have lots of probs, like funky textures and random crashes. No ammount of updating drivers fixed the problem. Then he upgraded to an Nforce2 Ultra 400 mobo, and all the problems went away. cause_of_chaos __________________ AMD Phenom II 965 Black Edition @ 3.4Ghz 4Gb Crucial Ballistix PC2 8500 ~ 800 FSB {Timings 4-4-4-12} Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe CrossfireX Mobo ~ 2002 Bios MSI ATI RX3870 512Mb PCI-e 2.0 Graphics card Creative Audigy2 ZS Platinum Sound card (SB0350 10k2 [e800])

Jan 30, 2006, 10:42 PM	#12
Wildman95gs-t DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dothan, Alabama USA Posts: 224 Rep Power: 0	Could this be the same problem i am having with my sons system, i replaced his fx5200 ultra with a 9800 pro 128 mb card, he has an Asus A7N266-C motherboard that only has a pro/4x agp slot. When i installed driver, there is a utility "SMARTGART(tm)" that clocks the agp slot back to 1x for stability, when i change it to 4x, it will not stay changing back to 1x, This makes no sence to me when everyone is trying to overclock, flash bios to xt to make thing run faster. How can i get around this __________________ AMD Athlon XP3000+ Biostar nForce2 M7NCG 400 Windows XP Home Edition SP3 Albatron 6800GT 256mb 2x1gb G.Skill NS 400DDR in DC Creative X-Fi Xtreme Gamer WD 100Gb 7200 HD Samsung 16x/48x DVD Drive Samsung 40x/12x/40x CDRW Drive ENlight 420 Watt PSU

Jan 29, 2006, 07:58 PM	#2
Pesticle DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 155 Rep Power: 0	What motherboard do you have?

Jan 30, 2006, 12:24 PM	#6
Pesticle DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 155 Rep Power: 0	Well, I successfully ran AGP 8x on my old Asus board. I'm using an ASrock now, and I had to uninstall my video drivers, and find the latest AGP driver from the chipset driver and install that again before the video drivers. It seems to work now.

Jan 30, 2006, 04:11 PM	Thread Starter #8
Orcymorky DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 82 Rep Power: 0	Damn, didn't work. Any other suggestions anyone?

Jan 30, 2006, 04:56 PM	#9
Matth Flash Banner Hater Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: UK Posts: 3,426 Rep Power: 93 System Specs	Other than trying the Sis AGP driver version 1.21, and perhaps a BIOS update if available, not much to suggest. Ensure that the PSU rating, particularly on the 12v rail, is adequate, as perhaps 8x operation just tips it over the edge. Sis chipsets can be a little quirky, especially in the AGP and USB areas. It also seems to be better not to use the SiS IDE driver, as the Microsoft driver in XP SP2 seems to be a lot smoother - for older operaing systems, the Sis IDE is probably worth using.

Jan 31, 2006, 12:13 AM	#14
Wildman95gs-t DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dothan, Alabama USA Posts: 224 Rep Power: 0	My son's board is an old nforce but uses the same chipset drivers from nVidia as my nforce2, i installed the 5.10's then i reset the agp setting to 4x and rebooted and it stuck like a hair in a biscuit. Thanks cause_of_chaos __________________ AMD Athlon XP3000+ Biostar nForce2 M7NCG 400 Windows XP Home Edition SP3 Albatron 6800GT 256mb 2x1gb G.Skill NS 400DDR in DC Creative X-Fi Xtreme Gamer WD 100Gb 7200 HD Samsung 16x/48x DVD Drive Samsung 40x/12x/40x CDRW Drive ENlight 420 Watt PSU