ati 6.2 are out

Robert McClelland · Feb 10, 2006, 04:08 AM

I scored 6354 in 3dmark03 not bad for OC 440/440

Robert McClelland · Feb 10, 2006, 04:10 AM

Ya I get HQ AF on my x700pro card too

luckyme · Feb 10, 2006, 04:30 AM

I need it no CCC!

Gnerma · Feb 10, 2006, 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exceededgoku

ye it seems us X1900 XTX users got shafted and hard.... I really want to use my card for gaming lol, it lags at high rez...

Your card simply cannot keep up with the settings you've configured in that game. ATi has not shafted anybody, some things even the highest end cards can't manage. FEAR is just about the most graphically intensive game on the market.

Also, last time I checked the word gaming wasn't synonymous with maximum everything at high FPS. You can use that card for gaming, I promise. Just launch any game and it'll run.

Quote:

Originally Posted by luckyme

I need it no CCC!

Download the display drivers only pack. There you go, no CCC.

OmegaRED · Feb 10, 2006, 07:21 AM

As much as I enjoyed that speach Gnerma the guy has a point, X1900XTX is extremely powerful and should be able to handle fear all maxed out. You don't buy a card that expensive and play it on 800x600.

farkas · Feb 10, 2006, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FDM80

I don't know why it is only limited to 1X00 cards if there are people including myself who can clearly see this option whily running x800 cards.

I started enabling them via registry a while back, posted here somewhere. Then Ati Tray Tools had it available but it had to be enabled, to be available, and now it is enabled by default in ATI tray tools I believe.

As for ATI official stuff, it's been officially added I beleive with 6.1, I could be wrong, maybe 5.12's but me think it's recent, and that's why the crop of people asking about it lately !

I have a X800 XT PE, and I am certain that it does work with certain games, as I see the difference in Guild Wars but not all games.

It does add some overhead for the GPU, it shows in the FPS !

If you notice better image quality yourself, and the drop on FPS is manageable, leave it on, if not, turn it off.

My 2 cents

luckyme · Feb 10, 2006, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gnerma

Download the display drivers only pack. There you go, no CCC.

Thanks. I'm not practice in English...

new learner.....

but I need like this:

5-11_xp-2k_dd_cp_wdm_27345

I really installed the "display drivers only pack" and "wdm" but it's not like "5-11_xp-2k_dd_cp_wdm_27345". The attribute of display-advanced options has not the selection of ATI as usual.

God... i am a new English learner

Spyre · Feb 10, 2006, 09:19 AM

People claiming that quality AF works on none X1x00 cards need to get their eyes tested since it doesnt it requires HARDWARE features that are only present in newer cards.

AAA on the other hand does work with older cards.

ace11 · Feb 10, 2006, 09:37 AM

spyre , maybe ATI implemented [for non 1x00 cards] software [= in driver] functionality that emulates what the 1X00 hardware does

Scoop · Feb 10, 2006, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daedal

To answer your question, yes, that's normal.
All X9100 cards use the same core. The only difference is between a vanilla to Pro or XT is the coolers, clocks and probes so it's normal that it picks it up as a "member" of the X1900 family.

Cheers mate

for the info

Regards
Scoop

The_Neon_Cowboy · Feb 10, 2006, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FDM80

I don't know why it is only limited to 1X00 cards if there are people including myself who can clearly see this option whily running x800 cards.

It grayed out or is it not?

Quote:

Originally Posted by OmegaRED

As much as I enjoyed that speach Gnerma the guy has a point, X1900XTX is extremely powerful and should be able to handle fear all maxed out. You don't buy a card that expensive and play it on 800x600.

Nope why is that???? As With a 7800 512 ultra and the X1800XT the game
makers / devlopers said the recomeded resoltion is 1024X768 for all cards.
If you want better IQ they said turn up the AA/AF.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ace11

spyre , maybe ATI implemented [for non 1x00 cards] software [= in driver] functionality that emulates what the 1X00 hardware does

not likely and we would probubly already know about it....

ace11 · Feb 10, 2006, 11:54 AM

so [color=#999933]The_Neon_Cowboy[/color] : if i see that quality AF not grayed out with my x800xt pe :
is that a bug in the drivers ?

i do notice change in IQ with that option turned on !

Gnerma · Feb 10, 2006, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OmegaRED

As much as I enjoyed that speach Gnerma the guy has a point, X1900XTX is extremely powerful and should be able to handle fear all maxed out. You don't buy a card that expensive and play it on 800x600.

Sorry, no he doesn't. If he wants to play fear "all maxed out" he is going to have to wait another product generation. This is just how it goes sometimes. If you or anybody expected this card to part the 3d red sea just because you think it should be able to you'll quickly learn that it cannot. Remember that Crossfire and SLI exist for a reason.

In any case it's probably soft shadows thats killing his performance. I've no doubt the game would be playable at 1280x960, 2x 8x /w everything maxed except for soft shadows. Although back when I had a 7800GT I couldn't pull those settings off. FEAR is one of those games that doesn't take low FPS very well unlike say Quake 4 which still feels ok at low framerate.

Ib Al-Musaheb · Feb 10, 2006, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spyre

None angle dependant AF filtering, and only X1x00 cards can make use of the functionality

Quote:

Originally Posted by FDM80

I don't know why it is only limited to 1X00 cards if there are people including myself who can clearly see this option whily running x800 cards.

Yes, I'm also able to activate the option HQ AF from ATT with my X850XT PE.

So, tell me, why do ya think that's only avaiable for X1800-cards ... and what does it exactly do? Is it better than 16xAF ... or what?

For your confused Musaheb, please answer me ...

(

)

Sandok · Feb 10, 2006, 05:59 PM

Exceededgoku's PC is not optimaly installed... I mean, I can run FEAR very high and if he's lagging, it's just that he badly installed his Hardware (told him in another thread).

I mean, already 3GB ram = No dual channel

And HQ AF is just clearer AF... So 16XAA HQ is uber pretty instead of just pretty

cswiger · Feb 10, 2006, 07:23 PM

Basicly, there are different ways of figuring out which pixels to sample when using anisotopic filtering (especially if AA or temporal AA is turned on), along with a potential optimization of using higher-level sampling for sharply angled textures, and using less sampling if the textures are not at such an oblique angle.

And as for the option being available on which cards, 1 picture might save a lotta words. :-)

http://www.pkix.net/~chuck/ATI/x800_HQAF.jpg

<img>

MindlessOath · Feb 10, 2006, 07:41 PM

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/87...sis/index.html

upgraded performance for x1xxx cards.

Ib Al-Musaheb · Feb 10, 2006, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandok

And HQ AF is just clearer AF... So 16XAA HQ is uber pretty instead of just pretty

I think, I understand now ... although I don't have any idea what do you mean with "uber" ?

Thanx anyway ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by cswiger

Basicly, there are different ways of figuring out which pixels to sample when using anisotopic filtering (especially if AA or temporal AA is turned on), along with a potential optimization of using higher-level sampling for sharply angled textures, and using less sampling if the textures are not at such an oblique angle.

And as for the option being available on which cards, 1 picture might save a lotta words. :-)

http://www.pkix.net/~chuck/ATI/x800_HQAF.jpg
<img>

I cannot watch this picture ...

Ib Al-Musaheb · Feb 10, 2006, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MindlessOath

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/87...sis/index.html

upgraded performance for x1xxx cards.

That looks very promising ...

Do you think there're also gains like that for the X8XX-cards ?

cswiger · Feb 10, 2006, 08:26 PM

I cannot watch this picture ...

Whoops, fixed. *sorry*...you ran into my anti-spammer mechanism...

Maybe it's not fixed. The URL is supposed to end with "HQAF", but every time I try to edit the post and save it, it gets reverted to "HFQF". I'm going to make a copy on the webserver under that name, but somethings wacky.

*help*...? :-)

Lemonzest · Feb 10, 2006, 08:36 PM

anyone have any news on the Omega version of these drivers?

Ib Al-Musaheb · Feb 10, 2006, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cswiger

*help*...? :-)

Yes, thanx, I can also active it.

But is the improved image quality worth the performance decrease?

In ATT, I let AA/AF as "application controlled" ... does HQAF still has an effect although AF isn't directly activated?

FDM80 · Feb 11, 2006, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Neon_Cowboy

It grayed out or is it not?

It is not grayed out. I can select it off or on.

petri1 · Feb 11, 2006, 01:13 AM

HQ AF is not greyed out on my X800 but adaptive AA is well guess it is better than none of these two at least one is optional to use

i like these drivers seems good enough well time will tell

cswiger · Feb 11, 2006, 02:45 AM

In ATT, I let AA/AF as "application controlled" ... does HQAF still has an effect although AF isn't directly activated?

If you're running a program which enabled AF internally, setting HQAF does seem to result in better image quality. I haven't been able to notice much difference in terms of performance with it off or on...

Audi · Feb 11, 2006, 11:06 AM

I have a new Question!
My Card is a 800xt .
What do you guys thinks is the best driver for my Card?
Now i have the 5.11 Omega!
Thanks

Ib Al-Musaheb · Feb 11, 2006, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cswiger

If you're running a program which enabled AF internally, setting HQAF does seem to result in better image quality. I haven't been able to notice much difference in terms of performance with it off or on...

Thanx for this info.

I'll try that HQAF out in HL² and Bf2 later ... with forced 16xAF.

Ib Al-Musaheb · Feb 11, 2006, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daedal

[color=#000066]Issues Resolved in Catalyst® Software Suite 6.2 [/color]

The following section provides a summary of the issues that have been resolved in the latest version of Catalyst®. These include:

This release of Catalyst provides improved audio quality for European customers. Further details on this resolved issue can be found in topic number 737-21654

What does that mean?!

Tell me, sound and performance has been improved on Creative cards and I'll try out this driver set as fast as possible ...

Aurahead · Feb 11, 2006, 02:28 PM

Hmm... Would like to se if these driver imporove for x8xx card.

I was wonder can I download ATI only for display and then use ATI Tray Tools for tweak?
If that is possiblem, Iam not a big fan of Catalyst Control Center

Chaos · Feb 11, 2006, 02:45 PM

Spyre or Neon can you ask Terry if the fact that the High Quality AF is available was a mistake so that those that think it makes improvements in image quality have the words straight from the source????

Feb 10, 2006, 04:08 AM	#31
Robert McClelland PAX Tweaker, PAX Expert. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Somewhere in Wood County Ohio Same Town :) Posts: 10,233 Rep Power: 193 System Specs	I scored 6354 in 3dmark03 not bad for OC 440/440 __________________ "XTREME AUDIO IS CRAP!" "There no support for it. It's crapist card on face of the earth it should be throw into the sun" http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2242746

Feb 10, 2006, 04:10 AM	#32
Robert McClelland PAX Tweaker, PAX Expert. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Somewhere in Wood County Ohio Same Town :) Posts: 10,233 Rep Power: 193 System Specs	Ya I get HQ AF on my x700pro card too __________________ "XTREME AUDIO IS CRAP!" "There no support for it. It's crapist card on face of the earth it should be throw into the sun" http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2242746

Feb 10, 2006, 07:21 AM	#35
OmegaRED Relapsed Gamer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ottawa , Canada Posts: 5,624 Rep Power: 171 System Specs	As much as I enjoyed that speach Gnerma the guy has a point, X1900XTX is extremely powerful and should be able to handle fear all maxed out. You don't buy a card that expensive and play it on 800x600. __________________ E Penis Specs: <------------- See System Specs

Feb 10, 2006, 09:19 AM	#38
Spyre DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: England Posts: 240 Rep Power: 60	People claiming that quality AF works on none X1x00 cards need to get their eyes tested since it doesnt it requires HARDWARE features that are only present in newer cards. AAA on the other hand does work with older cards. __________________ ATI Beta Tester game.AMD.Moderator

Feb 10, 2006, 07:23 PM	#46
cswiger DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 233 Rep Power: 0	Basicly, there are different ways of figuring out which pixels to sample when using anisotopic filtering (especially if AA or temporal AA is turned on), along with a potential optimization of using higher-level sampling for sharply angled textures, and using less sampling if the textures are not at such an oblique angle. And as for the option being available on which cards, 1 picture might save a lotta words. :-) http://www.pkix.net/~chuck/ATI/x800_HQAF.jpg <img> __________________ Do you remember Shalebridge Cradle? Beware! The Cradle doesn't forget.... AMD Opteron 185 @ 2.6GHz/200HTT \| 2GB G.Skill DDR3200 @ 2-3-2-5/1T \| 512MB eVGA 8800GT @ 600/1800 \| SB Audigy 2ZS eX, Outlaw 1050 6.1ch amp, Paradigm speakers \| MSI K8N Diamond Plus mainboard \| black Lian-Li USB68 case + Foxconn FX600-GLN 600W PSU \| 2xWDC3200AAKS (RAID1) \| Sony GDM-F500R CRT, BENQ G2400W LCD Last edited by cswiger; Feb 10, 2006 at 08:28 PM.

Feb 10, 2006, 04:30 AM	#33
luckyme DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Asia Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	I need it no CCC!

Feb 10, 2006, 09:37 AM	Thread Starter #39
ace11 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 30 Rep Power: 0	spyre , maybe ATI implemented [for non 1x00 cards] software [= in driver] functionality that emulates what the 1X00 hardware does

Feb 10, 2006, 11:54 AM	Thread Starter #42
ace11 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 30 Rep Power: 0	so [color=#999933]The_Neon_Cowboy[/color] : if i see that quality AF not grayed out with my x800xt pe : is that a bug in the drivers ? i do notice change in IQ with that option turned on !

Feb 10, 2006, 05:59 PM	#45
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 66	Exceededgoku's PC is not optimaly installed... I mean, I can run FEAR very high and if he's lagging, it's just that he badly installed his Hardware (told him in another thread). I mean, already 3GB ram = No dual channel And HQ AF is just clearer AF... So 16XAA HQ is uber pretty instead of just pretty

Feb 10, 2006, 07:41 PM	#47
MindlessOath DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,121 Rep Power: 0	http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/87...sis/index.html upgraded performance for x1xxx cards. __________________ ATI Radeon X800XT PE <---- LOOK UPDATED!! AMD Athlon 2Ghz, nforce2, 512mb ddr3500 LINKS U SHOULD KNOW!!!! DriverCleaner - use every time u install new drivers! ATI driver feedback - to report driver problems Tacticalcenter - my Gaming website and forums ATI 3rd party Optimized Driver Compairison

Feb 10, 2006, 08:26 PM	#50
cswiger DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 233 Rep Power: 0	I cannot watch this picture ... Whoops, fixed. sorry...you ran into my anti-spammer mechanism... Maybe it's not fixed. The URL is supposed to end with "HQAF", but every time I try to edit the post and save it, it gets reverted to "HFQF". I'm going to make a copy on the webserver under that name, but somethings wacky. help...? :-) __________________ Do you remember Shalebridge Cradle? Beware! The Cradle doesn't forget.... AMD Opteron 185 @ 2.6GHz/200HTT \| 2GB G.Skill DDR3200 @ 2-3-2-5/1T \| 512MB eVGA 8800GT @ 600/1800 \| SB Audigy 2ZS eX, Outlaw 1050 6.1ch amp, Paradigm speakers \| MSI K8N Diamond Plus mainboard \| black Lian-Li USB68 case + Foxconn FX600-GLN 600W PSU \| 2xWDC3200AAKS (RAID1) \| Sony GDM-F500R CRT, BENQ G2400W LCD Last edited by cswiger; Feb 10, 2006 at 08:31 PM.

Feb 10, 2006, 08:36 PM	#51
Lemonzest DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 106 Rep Power: 0	anyone have any news on the Omega version of these drivers? __________________ [color=DarkOrange]AMD Athlon64 3000+ @2.4GHz, DFI Lanparty UT NF3 250Gb, 2x1024MB Geil Value Ram PC3200 ATI Radeon X800XT VIVO, SyncMaster 913N LCD, Logitech MX518, Creative Audigy2 ZS Enermax Noisetaker 485W, Western Digital SATA 160GB, Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard[/color]

Feb 11, 2006, 01:13 AM	#54
petri1 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 746 Rep Power: 0	HQ AF is not greyed out on my X800 but adaptive AA is well guess it is better than none of these two at least one is optional to use i like these drivers seems good enough well time will tell __________________ [COLOR=#232d35] [COLOR=Red]Intel Core 2 Quad 9450@2,66GHZ PowerColor Ati Radeon HD4870 512mb Gigabyte GaE-X38 4GB Kingston Hyper X [/COLOR] [/COLOR]

Feb 11, 2006, 02:45 AM	#55
cswiger DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 233 Rep Power: 0	In ATT, I let AA/AF as "application controlled" ... does HQAF still has an effect although AF isn't directly activated? If you're running a program which enabled AF internally, setting HQAF does seem to result in better image quality. I haven't been able to notice much difference in terms of performance with it off or on... __________________ Do you remember Shalebridge Cradle? Beware! The Cradle doesn't forget.... AMD Opteron 185 @ 2.6GHz/200HTT \| 2GB G.Skill DDR3200 @ 2-3-2-5/1T \| 512MB eVGA 8800GT @ 600/1800 \| SB Audigy 2ZS eX, Outlaw 1050 6.1ch amp, Paradigm speakers \| MSI K8N Diamond Plus mainboard \| black Lian-Li USB68 case + Foxconn FX600-GLN 600W PSU \| 2xWDC3200AAKS (RAID1) \| Sony GDM-F500R CRT, BENQ G2400W LCD

Feb 11, 2006, 11:06 AM	#56
Audi DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 29 Rep Power: 0	I have a new Question! My Card is a 800xt . What do you guys thinks is the best driver for my Card? Now i have the 5.11 Omega! Thanks

Feb 11, 2006, 02:28 PM	#59
Aurahead DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 51 Rep Power: 0	Hmm... Would like to se if these driver imporove for x8xx card. I was wonder can I download ATI only for display and then use ATI Tray Tools for tweak? If that is possiblem, Iam not a big fan of Catalyst Control Center

Feb 11, 2006, 02:45 PM	#60
Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,269 Rep Power: 165 System Specs	Spyre or Neon can you ask Terry if the fact that the High Quality AF is available was a mistake so that those that think it makes improvements in image quality have the words straight from the source???? __________________