ati 6.2 are out

Gnerma · Feb 11, 2006, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ib Al-Musaheb

What does that mean?!

Tell me, sound and performance has been improved on Creative cards and I'll try out this driver set as fast as possible ...

Well, the CSS is responsible for system and audio drivers on ATi chipset motherboards so that is why this is possible. The fix does look rather strange in a video driver release note PDF though. Especially since its Europe only

cswiger · Feb 11, 2006, 05:07 PM

Here are two cropped images focusing on the street cobblestones in 3DMark 2001's Dragothic IQ test, try opening them in two tabs in your browser or image viewer and swapping between them:

http://www.pkix.net/~chuck/ATI/IQ02I_2001_HQAF.bmp
http://www.pkix.net/~chuck/ATI/IQ02I_2001_no_HQAF.bmp

I used IrfanViewer to zoom them to 300%, and I think the dark lines between the cobblestones are a bit sharper and and more in focus in the first image than in the second, but it's subtle. This was with 4xAniso and no AA. It's possible that I'm fooling myself that the option makes no difference, but judge for yourself. :-)

Quarter · Feb 11, 2006, 06:17 PM

After playing a bit of BF2 last night, it seems the 6.2 is noticeably smoother / faster for me on my 850XT.
I'm not too sure if its just a driver improvement or the fact that I chose to not use the Control Center this time around.
I used the driver only download along with ATI Tray Tools.
Being that this is the first time I've used the driver only version, I don't have much to compare too so, ... YMMV

Ib Al-Musaheb · Feb 11, 2006, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cswiger

http://www.pkix.net/~chuck/ATI/IQ02I_2001_HQAF.bmp
http://www.pkix.net/~chuck/ATI/IQ02I_2001_no_HQAF.bmp

I can't see any difference ...

Sorry!

And I stopped using AF in my applications. If I wanna improve the game's appearance in any way, I'll stick to AA and high Res ... that's the best for me, I think.

Thanx anyway, cswiger!

Lemonzest · Feb 11, 2006, 07:22 PM

i did a few test's in opengl with HQAF on/off and saving screenshots to png's and the files are bit identical (using my X800XT and 6.2's)

Jerm357 · Feb 11, 2006, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quarter

After playing a bit of BF2 last night, it seems the 6.2 is noticeably smoother / faster for me on my 850XT.
I'm not too sure if its just a driver improvement or the fact that I chose to not use the Control Center this time around.
I used the driver only download along with ATI Tray Tools.
Being that this is the first time I've used the driver only version, I don't have much to compare too so, ... YMMV

I think BF2 seemed smoother too from 6.1. I used the CCC tho and the HQAF. Played great and looked great with every thing max but no shadows with a rez of 1280 X 960. (how I always play)

cswiger · Feb 11, 2006, 08:07 PM

i did a few test's in opengl with HQAF on/off and saving screenshots to png's and the files are bit identical (using my X800XT and 6.2's)

A good thought. Does anyone with an x1800 model have a chance to do some comparisons and see whether the HQAF toggle does anything on those cards?

jpinard · Feb 13, 2006, 09:04 PM

CAT 6.2 has a massive cpu hit compared to previous versions ~17-22%. Please see this thread for more information and testing results:

[color=red]http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthread.php?p=794515#post794515[/color]

Spyre · Feb 14, 2006, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cswiger

i did a few test's in opengl with HQAF on/off and saving screenshots to png's and the files are bit identical (using my X800XT and 6.2's)

A good thought. Does anyone with an x1800 model have a chance to do some comparisons and see whether the HQAF toggle does anything on those cards?

Of course HQAF works on 1800 cards.

cswiger · Feb 14, 2006, 08:42 PM

Of course HQAF works on 1800 cards.

Wonderful. I'd still like to see some screenshots of the difference it makes.

(While it appears true that a driver manufacturer can obtain great interest from the userbase simply by adding a new checkbox-- even if the option does nothing on a particular card-- at least I try to obtain real data. Even if the data contradicts what I thought was going on.... :-)

Gnerma · Feb 14, 2006, 08:45 PM

Oh believe me gentlemen, many pre X1000 owners will swear up and down that they see the difference

IvanV · Feb 15, 2006, 10:36 PM

These are good drivers. They gave me a nice increase in Q4 (about 5% in my own timedemos), and a marginal bump in 3D Mark 03 and 05. CSS Stress Test result was identical to Extreme 5.13, ~56.5fps 1280*960, all details maxed, 4X AA and 16X AF.

I tested HQ AF with D3DAFTester13a and it does nothing on my R9800Pro.

I had no issues and in 3DMarks I'm getting CPU scores similar to ones I had with previous sets.

SSXeon · Feb 27, 2006, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Gnerma

Oh believe me gentlemen, many pre X1000 owners will swear up and down that they see the difference

Not a huge difference, but you can tell only on slated walls ect. It is still a good thing, as I will admit i dont notice it alot. Tho i dont have shimmering.

Dalton Sleeper · Feb 28, 2006, 02:36 PM

Huge performance drops on slower processors like AMD Barton and Palomino.

MEABeemer · Mar 4, 2006, 10:04 AM

Anyone who compared the "Original ATi Catalyst 6.2" with "DHzer0point 6.2" and "Omega 3.8.221 (Cat 6.2)" by quality/performance in games?!

Thanx in advance!

C U L8R!!!

Feb 11, 2006, 05:07 PM	#62
cswiger DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 233 Rep Power: 0	Here are two cropped images focusing on the street cobblestones in 3DMark 2001's Dragothic IQ test, try opening them in two tabs in your browser or image viewer and swapping between them: http://www.pkix.net/~chuck/ATI/IQ02I_2001_HQAF.bmp http://www.pkix.net/~chuck/ATI/IQ02I_2001_no_HQAF.bmp I used IrfanViewer to zoom them to 300%, and I think the dark lines between the cobblestones are a bit sharper and and more in focus in the first image than in the second, but it's subtle. This was with 4xAniso and no AA. It's possible that I'm fooling myself that the option makes no difference, but judge for yourself. :-) __________________ Do you remember Shalebridge Cradle? Beware! The Cradle doesn't forget.... AMD Opteron 185 @ 2.6GHz/200HTT \| 2GB G.Skill DDR3200 @ 2-3-2-5/1T \| 512MB eVGA 8800GT @ 600/1800 \| SB Audigy 2ZS eX, Outlaw 1050 6.1ch amp, Paradigm speakers \| MSI K8N Diamond Plus mainboard \| black Lian-Li USB68 case + Foxconn FX600-GLN 600W PSU \| 2xWDC3200AAKS (RAID1) \| Sony GDM-F500R CRT, BENQ G2400W LCD

Feb 11, 2006, 07:22 PM	#65
Lemonzest DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 106 Rep Power: 0	i did a few test's in opengl with HQAF on/off and saving screenshots to png's and the files are bit identical (using my X800XT and 6.2's) __________________ [color=DarkOrange]AMD Athlon64 3000+ @2.4GHz, DFI Lanparty UT NF3 250Gb, 2x1024MB Geil Value Ram PC3200 ATI Radeon X800XT VIVO, SyncMaster 913N LCD, Logitech MX518, Creative Audigy2 ZS Enermax Noisetaker 485W, Western Digital SATA 160GB, Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard[/color]

Feb 14, 2006, 08:42 PM	#70
cswiger DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 233 Rep Power: 0	Of course HQAF works on 1800 cards. Wonderful. I'd still like to see some screenshots of the difference it makes. (While it appears true that a driver manufacturer can obtain great interest from the userbase simply by adding a new checkbox-- even if the option does nothing on a particular card-- at least I try to obtain real data. Even if the data contradicts what I thought was going on.... :-) __________________ Do you remember Shalebridge Cradle? Beware! The Cradle doesn't forget.... AMD Opteron 185 @ 2.6GHz/200HTT \| 2GB G.Skill DDR3200 @ 2-3-2-5/1T \| 512MB eVGA 8800GT @ 600/1800 \| SB Audigy 2ZS eX, Outlaw 1050 6.1ch amp, Paradigm speakers \| MSI K8N Diamond Plus mainboard \| black Lian-Li USB68 case + Foxconn FX600-GLN 600W PSU \| 2xWDC3200AAKS (RAID1) \| Sony GDM-F500R CRT, BENQ G2400W LCD

Feb 14, 2006, 08:45 PM	#71
Gnerma Avatar limits = SPAM Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: California Posts: 101 Rep Power: 0	Oh believe me gentlemen, many pre X1000 owners will swear up and down that they see the difference __________________ I disable sigs at Driver Heaven. Why? Because your huge ugly sig image irritates me Last edited by Gnerma; Feb 14, 2006 at 09:10 PM.

Feb 15, 2006, 10:36 PM	#72
IvanV HH Assassin Guild Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,649 Rep Power: 280 System Specs	These are good drivers. They gave me a nice increase in Q4 (about 5% in my own timedemos), and a marginal bump in 3D Mark 03 and 05. CSS Stress Test result was identical to Extreme 5.13, ~56.5fps 1280*960, all details maxed, 4X AA and 16X AF. I tested HQ AF with D3DAFTester13a and it does nothing on my R9800Pro. I had no issues and in 3DMarks I'm getting CPU scores similar to ones I had with previous sets. __________________ Our Folding@home stats:

Feb 11, 2006, 06:17 PM	#63
Quarter DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: CA / USA Posts: 28 Rep Power: 0	After playing a bit of BF2 last night, it seems the 6.2 is noticeably smoother / faster for me on my 850XT. I'm not too sure if its just a driver improvement or the fact that I chose to not use the Control Center this time around. I used the driver only download along with ATI Tray Tools. Being that this is the first time I've used the driver only version, I don't have much to compare too so, ... YMMV

Feb 11, 2006, 08:07 PM	#67
cswiger DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 233 Rep Power: 0	i did a few test's in opengl with HQAF on/off and saving screenshots to png's and the files are bit identical (using my X800XT and 6.2's) A good thought. Does anyone with an x1800 model have a chance to do some comparisons and see whether the HQAF toggle does anything on those cards?

Feb 13, 2006, 09:04 PM	#68
jpinard DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 278 Rep Power: 0	CAT 6.2 has a massive cpu hit compared to previous versions ~17-22%. Please see this thread for more information and testing results: [color=red]http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthread.php?p=794515#post794515[/color]

Feb 28, 2006, 02:36 PM	#74
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