Neutral-Catalyst-v2.0.2a.exe are they good ?

patje · Jan 24, 2003, 09:39 AM

Hi all,

Just a question:

I came across a Korean website atimania.com , and in the download section i discoverd someone is making
a neutral-Catalyst-v2.0.2a .

The thing is you can't download them from the website, buth with the filename in hand I went to filemirrors.com and looked for files starting with neutral, 1 file came up saying it is version 2.0.1a
dwnloaded it, and indeed it is version 1a.

Now For as far as I can see these are based on the 7.83 if i'm not mistaken.

My question is, has anyone tried these or has anyone more info on these drivers, my korean isn't what it used to be

The soonest I can try them is next week, but if anyone can gimme some advice, i'd be happy

greetzz

Patje

hellgate · Jan 24, 2003, 10:26 AM

Well...

I heard that neutral driver set was repackaging only.

Except, some feature like, 1290x960 support.

It contained ATi Driver set, Control panel set and Capture Driver set.

File maker says, this driver set makes for ATi novice user.

He says Neutral driver set is very easy to install Catalyst driver.

Chrille · Jan 24, 2003, 01:04 PM

Well maybe they are good.

Gurm · Jan 24, 2003, 08:32 PM

Easier than Catalyst 3? Err... double-click, yes, yes, yes, reboot.

hellgate · Jan 25, 2003, 06:36 AM

Latest Neutral driver set using 7.83 beta set.

Execute driver exe file then driver will set up automatically.

digitalwanderer · Jan 25, 2003, 02:19 PM

Does anyone else just instantly conjure up the image of getting your dog/cat "fixxed" when they hear the name "Neutral Cat3 set"? It sounds like an emasculated set-o-drivers or something....

hellgate · Jan 25, 2003, 02:55 PM

it is easy install file set only.

Gurm · Jan 25, 2003, 04:52 PM

Hellgate, we got that. What we're kind of asking is...

1. How can this POSSIBLY be easier than ATI's setup program or Omega's setup program. You double-click the .exe, say "yes", and it installs.

2. What are the BENEFITS of this, over Omega or ATI?

- Gurm

hellgate · Jan 25, 2003, 05:54 PM

Answer :

1. For novice user, neutral driver can support easy install...
Usually, Catalyst divided 2 driver set as driver part and control panel part.
neutral driver set was combined 2 parts in 1 part.
Some Korean ATi user couldn't understand install procedure,
(I think Catalyst set is also easy to install, but they don't.)
File maker help that people to install driver set easilly, using Korean support.
(Also it support English.)

2. It has no benefit.
It is simple package to install of Catalyst driver set.

digitalwanderer · Jan 25, 2003, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hellgate
Answer :

1. For novice user, neutral driver can support easy install...
Usually, Catalyst divided 2 driver set as driver part and control panel part.
neutral driver set was combined 2 parts in 1 part.
Some Korean ATi user couldn't understand install procedure,
(I think Catalyst set is also easy to install, but they don't.)
File maker help that people to install driver set easilly, using Korean support.
(Also it support English.)

2. It has no benefit.
It is simple package to install of Catalyst driver set.

Good answer, two points for hellgate! Just out of curiousity, do you know that or are you just guessing? (I'm not disagreeing with you, your explanation makes a lot of sense.

)

hellgate · Jan 26, 2003, 03:12 AM

Thank you,

I'm also Korean.
So I can read Korean help text.
And, I'd want to know that, I installed that driver set.
And now, I returned original Catalyst 3 fixed WHQL driver set.

Gurm · Jan 26, 2003, 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hellgate
Answer :

1. For novice user, neutral driver can support easy install...

So can ATI driver and Omega driver. By the way - English lesson for the day:

Articles are considered useful and necessary parts of speech. So, in your sentence above you would say "THE neutral driver <verb>" not "neutral driver <verb>". In this way you can also avoid verb mismatches. It is, for example, not proper to say "car drove to school". You would say "THE car drove to school." It is also not proper to say "John walk to school". Rather it should be "John walks/walked/will walk to school".

Quote:

Usually, Catalyst divided 2 driver set as driver part and control panel part.
neutral driver set was combined 2 parts in 1 part.

Kinda like... most of the Catalysts and all of the Omega and/or Plutoniums?

Quote:

Some Korean ATi user couldn't understand install procedure,
(I think Catalyst set is also easy to install, but they don't.)

Some Korean ATi user are stupid, apparently. I don't care WHAT language it's in... push "next" until it installs. *sigh* I guess there's no accounting for the software people will write to support their own dumbness.

Quote:

File maker help that people to install driver set easilly, using Korean support.
(Also it support English.)

Ahh... ok so it has localized help and install text. See THAT is a good reason for it to exist. Thank you.

- Gurm

Lord Nikon · Jan 27, 2003, 07:34 AM

Gurm you happen to be dumb also

your first sentence isnt a correct one at all.

its missing the beginning so therefore its not a proper sentence.

THE would not be capitalized, it would remain lowercase as its after a comma and part of a sentence not the beginning. It would also not be proper to say THE car drove to school, as for one, THE is once again not fully capitalized and it is also not a proper sentence as a car cannot drive itself. Now this would be a proper sentence.

The young man drove his car to school.

See my point?

I can point out about 7 more mistakes....so dont be stupid please.

Thank you.

(BTW---I know that I dont use full punctuation or grammar so do not try to correct my post as I already know that it has errors....grow up a little bit.)

Quote:

Originally posted by Gurm
So can ATI driver and Omega driver. By the way - English lesson for the day:

Articles are considered useful and necessary parts of speech. So, in your sentence above you would say "THE neutral driver <verb>" not "neutral driver <verb>". In this way you can also avoid verb mismatches. It is, for example, not proper to say "car drove to school". You would say "THE car drove to school." It is also not proper to say "John walk to school". Rather it should be "John walks/walked/will walk to school".

Kinda like... most of the Catalysts and all of the Omega and/or Plutoniums?

Some Korean ATi user are stupid, apparently. I don't care WHAT language it's in... push "next" until it installs. *sigh* I guess there's no accounting for the software people will write to support their own dumbness.

Ahh... ok so it has localized help and install text. See THAT is a good reason for it to exist. Thank you.

- Gurm

patje · Jan 27, 2003, 08:59 AM

Alright, back to topic

I gave them a shot, and I must say they do install very easy (easier? I wouldn't say)
anyway, instead of a dull red screen saying : installing drivers bla bla bla ...
you get a red screen with some cartoon figures in Manga style.

yeah yeah real cute i hear you think, I know just tought it was worth mentioning

about the driver:

I have a mobility 7500 and i've been looking for a descent driver, (omega was good) but this one is better (my opinion)
The catalyst 3a don't install on a mobility (unless you edit inf files) only omega installs mobilty's but is not 3a, this set installs mobilty and works fine.

I tried the original 7.83 leaked version and it sucked, this is also a 7.83 version but it works fine? I don't get it, so I do believe it is a litlle modded, not sure

I only tested OpenGL in unreal tournament (not ut 2k3) and works fine
Lost about 300 points in 3dMark but who cares, i won FPS in UT2k3 and that is the most important.
IQ is also very good.

General conclusion:

-Easy to install
-If your driver works fine whatever you are using, leave it, do not install it
-If you still haven't found a descent driver like I did, try it, It might do the trick.
-Maybe it's only good for mobilty users like me.

final warning: Try them at own risk, don't blaim me if your PC gets screwed up

hellgate · Jan 27, 2003, 09:36 AM

Sorry,I forgot to mention about mobility one.

File maker said, that added mobility inf like M6, M7500, Mobility 9000,ETC

But, he said it was a test version, he couldn't test driver set for mobility support.

Jan 24, 2003, 09:39 AM	#1
patje Former Mobility Modman Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Belgium / Antwerp Posts: 1,475 Rep Power: 66	Neutral-Catalyst-v2.0.2a.exe are they good ? Hi all, Just a question: I came across a Korean website atimania.com , and in the download section i discoverd someone is making a neutral-Catalyst-v2.0.2a . The thing is you can't download them from the website, buth with the filename in hand I went to filemirrors.com and looked for files starting with neutral, 1 file came up saying it is version 2.0.1a dwnloaded it, and indeed it is version 1a. Now For as far as I can see these are based on the 7.83 if i'm not mistaken. My question is, has anyone tried these or has anyone more info on these drivers, my korean isn't what it used to be The soonest I can try them is next week, but if anyone can gimme some advice, i'd be happy greetzz Patje

Jan 24, 2003, 10:26 AM	#2
hellgate DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: South Korea Posts: 25 Rep Power: 0	Reply. Well... I heard that neutral driver set was repackaging only. Except, some feature like, 1290x960 support. It contained ATi Driver set, Control panel set and Capture Driver set. File maker says, this driver set makes for ATi novice user. He says Neutral driver set is very easy to install Catalyst driver. __________________ CPU : Pentium 4 3.06Ghz @ 3.8Ghz RAM : Geil DDR400 1024M MOBO : Gigabyte SINXP 1394 VGA : Radeon 9700 Pro Sound Card : Hercules GTXP 7.1 Keyboard : Logitech Freedom Optical Mouse : Logitech MX700 Cordless HBA : Adaptec 2940uw, Adaptec DP1554u2 SCSI Raid Controller HDD : Atlas IV 9.1 x 2 (Raid 0), Barracuda IV 60GB, WD30GB, Maxtor 40GB x2(Raid0), SyJet 1.5GB

Jan 24, 2003, 01:04 PM	#3
Chrille DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 86 Rep Power: 0	Neutral Well maybe they are good.

Jan 24, 2003, 08:32 PM	#4
Gurm Hail to the King, Baby! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: This World AND The Next Posts: 193 Rep Power: 0	Easier than Catalyst 3? Err... double-click, yes, yes, yes, reboot. __________________ <Insert random "Army of Darkness" quote here...>

Jan 25, 2003, 06:36 AM	#5
hellgate DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: South Korea Posts: 25 Rep Power: 0	Latest Neutral driver set using 7.83 beta set. Execute driver exe file then driver will set up automatically. __________________ CPU : Pentium 4 3.06Ghz @ 3.8Ghz RAM : Geil DDR400 1024M MOBO : Gigabyte SINXP 1394 VGA : Radeon 9700 Pro Sound Card : Hercules GTXP 7.1 Keyboard : Logitech Freedom Optical Mouse : Logitech MX700 Cordless HBA : Adaptec 2940uw, Adaptec DP1554u2 SCSI Raid Controller HDD : Atlas IV 9.1 x 2 (Raid 0), Barracuda IV 60GB, WD30GB, Maxtor 40GB x2(Raid0), SyJet 1.5GB

Jan 25, 2003, 02:19 PM	#6
digitalwanderer Colour Commentator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Highland, IN USA Posts: 5,619 Rep Power: 0	"Neutral" set. Does anyone else just instantly conjure up the image of getting your dog/cat "fixxed" when they hear the name "Neutral Cat3 set"? It sounds like an emasculated set-o-drivers or something.... __________________ WTF is up with the sigs?

Jan 25, 2003, 02:55 PM	#7
hellgate DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: South Korea Posts: 25 Rep Power: 0	it is easy install file set only. __________________ CPU : Pentium 4 3.06Ghz @ 3.8Ghz RAM : Geil DDR400 1024M MOBO : Gigabyte SINXP 1394 VGA : Radeon 9700 Pro Sound Card : Hercules GTXP 7.1 Keyboard : Logitech Freedom Optical Mouse : Logitech MX700 Cordless HBA : Adaptec 2940uw, Adaptec DP1554u2 SCSI Raid Controller HDD : Atlas IV 9.1 x 2 (Raid 0), Barracuda IV 60GB, WD30GB, Maxtor 40GB x2(Raid0), SyJet 1.5GB

Jan 25, 2003, 04:52 PM	#8
Gurm Hail to the King, Baby! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: This World AND The Next Posts: 193 Rep Power: 0	Hellgate, we got that. What we're kind of asking is... 1. How can this POSSIBLY be easier than ATI's setup program or Omega's setup program. You double-click the .exe, say "yes", and it installs. 2. What are the BENEFITS of this, over Omega or ATI? - Gurm __________________ <Insert random "Army of Darkness" quote here...>

Jan 25, 2003, 05:54 PM	#9
hellgate DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: South Korea Posts: 25 Rep Power: 0	Answer : 1. For novice user, neutral driver can support easy install... Usually, Catalyst divided 2 driver set as driver part and control panel part. neutral driver set was combined 2 parts in 1 part. Some Korean ATi user couldn't understand install procedure, (I think Catalyst set is also easy to install, but they don't.) File maker help that people to install driver set easilly, using Korean support. (Also it support English.) 2. It has no benefit. It is simple package to install of Catalyst driver set. __________________ CPU : Pentium 4 3.06Ghz @ 3.8Ghz RAM : Geil DDR400 1024M MOBO : Gigabyte SINXP 1394 VGA : Radeon 9700 Pro Sound Card : Hercules GTXP 7.1 Keyboard : Logitech Freedom Optical Mouse : Logitech MX700 Cordless HBA : Adaptec 2940uw, Adaptec DP1554u2 SCSI Raid Controller HDD : Atlas IV 9.1 x 2 (Raid 0), Barracuda IV 60GB, WD30GB, Maxtor 40GB x2(Raid0), SyJet 1.5GB Last edited by hellgate; Jan 25, 2003 at 06:14 PM.

Jan 26, 2003, 03:12 AM	#11
hellgate DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: South Korea Posts: 25 Rep Power: 0	Thank you, I'm also Korean. So I can read Korean help text. And, I'd want to know that, I installed that driver set. And now, I returned original Catalyst 3 fixed WHQL driver set. __________________ CPU : Pentium 4 3.06Ghz @ 3.8Ghz RAM : Geil DDR400 1024M MOBO : Gigabyte SINXP 1394 VGA : Radeon 9700 Pro Sound Card : Hercules GTXP 7.1 Keyboard : Logitech Freedom Optical Mouse : Logitech MX700 Cordless HBA : Adaptec 2940uw, Adaptec DP1554u2 SCSI Raid Controller HDD : Atlas IV 9.1 x 2 (Raid 0), Barracuda IV 60GB, WD30GB, Maxtor 40GB x2(Raid0), SyJet 1.5GB

Jan 27, 2003, 08:59 AM	Thread Starter #14
patje Former Mobility Modman Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Belgium / Antwerp Posts: 1,475 Rep Power: 66	Alright, back to topic I gave them a shot, and I must say they do install very easy (easier? I wouldn't say) anyway, instead of a dull red screen saying : installing drivers bla bla bla ... you get a red screen with some cartoon figures in Manga style. yeah yeah real cute i hear you think, I know just tought it was worth mentioning about the driver: I have a mobility 7500 and i've been looking for a descent driver, (omega was good) but this one is better (my opinion) The catalyst 3a don't install on a mobility (unless you edit inf files) only omega installs mobilty's but is not 3a, this set installs mobilty and works fine. I tried the original 7.83 leaked version and it sucked, this is also a 7.83 version but it works fine? I don't get it, so I do believe it is a litlle modded, not sure I only tested OpenGL in unreal tournament (not ut 2k3) and works fine Lost about 300 points in 3dMark but who cares, i won FPS in UT2k3 and that is the most important. IQ is also very good. General conclusion: -Easy to install -If your driver works fine whatever you are using, leave it, do not install it -If you still haven't found a descent driver like I did, try it, It might do the trick. -Maybe it's only good for mobilty users like me. final warning: Try them at own risk, don't blaim me if your PC gets screwed up

Jan 27, 2003, 09:36 AM	#15
hellgate DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: South Korea Posts: 25 Rep Power: 0	Sorry,I forgot to mention about mobility one. File maker said, that added mobility inf like M6, M7500, Mobility 9000,ETC But, he said it was a test version, he couldn't test driver set for mobility support. __________________ CPU : Pentium 4 3.06Ghz @ 3.8Ghz RAM : Geil DDR400 1024M MOBO : Gigabyte SINXP 1394 VGA : Radeon 9700 Pro Sound Card : Hercules GTXP 7.1 Keyboard : Logitech Freedom Optical Mouse : Logitech MX700 Cordless HBA : Adaptec 2940uw, Adaptec DP1554u2 SCSI Raid Controller HDD : Atlas IV 9.1 x 2 (Raid 0), Barracuda IV 60GB, WD30GB, Maxtor 40GB x2(Raid0), SyJet 1.5GB Last edited by hellgate; Jan 27, 2003 at 09:42 AM.