Well just think for a second, If I started calling you SUPERMODERATOR. do you not think its very impersonal? Im fine with doing that if you want to keep this strictly businesslike. no skin of my nose mate. Yes, but there are a lot of really popular applications, it looks unusual if we just post crap cleaner updates doesnt it ? Im curious, what other ones do you post about? Not at all. my initial post was very clear I thought and you took offense in your first post back to me. Nothing is personal about this, but at least I learned today there is absolutely no point wasting a day on these discussions, when I need to change something ill just do it next time.