Windows XP and SSD for C:

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  1. WxMan1

    WxMan1 Active Member

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    You're getting the BSOD while the WinXP boot-CD is loading? What version of XP? Have you tried bare-bones install, i.e., remove all other peripherals except HDD + optical disk. Also, what mobo is it & what type SATA is the SDD? There may be an issue with the mobo SATA controller, i.e., if the HDD is SATA3, the mobo requires serial ATA-300 conrtroller. Furthermore, I perceive there to be some issue pertaining to 137GB space limit; try to un-allocate all space except the system partition (partition the remaining space from w/in Windows after you get it installed).
     
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    Trusteft HH's Asteroids' Dominator

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    I boot with the disc, it does all the automatic things at first and near the end it says Now WIndows Loading or something like that. At that exact moment it gets the BSOD.

    The disc is XP SP3 Pro. I am under the impression there is no such limit for this version, but I guess it doesn't hurt to create another partition to not have any larger than 130GB.

    There is no such thing as bare bones installation for this PC. It's a Shuttle Slim XS35GS V3L Barebone PC (Intel Atom D2550, 2x DDR3, 2.5 inch HDD, AMD Mobility Radeon HD 7410M Graphics, HDMI, VGA, Wi-Fi, USB 2.0, 4-In-1 Card Reader. I added RAM (4GB dimm by Corsair), SSD (840 Evo) and optical drive (Pioneer DVDRW). There is no hardware I can remove other than the mouse or wireless keyboard. (Logitech K230)
     
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    Takaharu Unus offa, unus iuguolo

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    Have you tried using one stick of RAM?
     
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    Trusteft HH's Asteroids' Dominator

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    It's one stick.
     
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    Trusteft HH's Asteroids' Dominator

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    Bad news good news situation.

    I contacted Shuttle tech support.

    Here is most of the reply.

    I am annoyed that this might not work after all. I wanted an SSD in there.

    On the positive part, their tech support reply time is astonishing. (as is the slim PC construction quality)


    Now, unless someone here knows otherwise or a loophole or something, it looks like I might have to go to the mechanical drive solution.
     
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    Trusteft HH's Asteroids' Dominator

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    ok, stubborn Greek that I am, I changed the setting from AHCI to IDE and it appears to be working or at least not BSOD at the same point.
    I am going to stop and see if I can install W98SE from a flash drive, then see if the XP will install.
     
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    Trusteft HH's Asteroids' Dominator

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    Windows 98SE is no go at least for now.

    Trying XP it no longer BSOD and it loads the installation part with the actuall gui. But.....
    I get a CRC error from the disc? WTF...
    I don't know if the problem is with the disc or the optical drive or neither.
    Had a quick look how to transfer the XP pro sp3 in a flash drive to install from there and......either nonsense instructions, or links to suspicious files, or files which only work under XP....
     
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    Trusteft HH's Asteroids' Dominator

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    I have reached an age, or should I say experience, where I just can't accept security risks like downloading unknown programs from unknown servers.
    I gave up on making the whole XP -->USB Flash work and decided to plug in the external usb dvdrw drive I bought back in 2008 or something.
    Everything went fine. Windows XP installed.
    hmm
    I wonder if w98 would install too this way....damn it
     
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    Trusteft HH's Asteroids' Dominator

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    ok, one last issue.
    There is an ? audio device in device manager. Windows can't find drivers for it, the ATI drivers and the "sound cards" audio drivers don't do anything about it...
    Audio Device on High Definition Audio Bus is the exact name.
    Any ideas?
     
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    Integrated soundcard on the mobo?
     
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    Trusteft HH's Asteroids' Dominator

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    Yes that one and the integrated AMD one...
     
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    Sorry reading with tapatalk. Could be hdmi audio out if the mobo has one?
     
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    Judas Obvious Closet Brony Pony

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    I don't/haven't got any BSOD like that before...

    SSD is just like any other drive... it doesn't have any special drivers... it's all up to your sata controller.. and if you have a machine with a sata controller set to legacy or IDE mode or compatibility, windows 9x will install straight away. If you run the SATA controller in AHCI or Raid.. yeah you'll be SOL
     
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    Trusteft HH's Asteroids' Dominator

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    It's possible, but I can't test it easily. It's funny, but at least I have full audio through the onboard (not the AMD) IDT 1 (no idea) soundcard......?
    Yeah, the sound works fine....lol
     
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    Trusteft HH's Asteroids' Dominator

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    Well, you see, RAID and I, never have been the best of friends. ALWAYS problems either from my side or the hardware. It's like me and WD. In 30 years I only had like 1 WD drive not fail on me within a day.....lol

    I gave up on W98, I am sure XP will do fine for like 99% of what I will run on that machine.
    Already tried Ultimate Race Pro and although in software mode and compatibility and after clicking away two error messages, boy does it run fine! I mean really fine! Very fun racing game and I got to play it for the first time in 15 years or so.
    More to come. :)
     
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    http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/578/windows-xp-installing-from-harddrive/

    Only way to go, x-fer rates compared to CD install are lightspeed. I do this as a matter of course:

    Copy WinXP CD to HDD. Format X: (where X: is the primary partition of the drive needing a bootable copy of Windows).

    winnt32 /s:G:\WinXP\I386 /tempdrive:i /makelocalsource /noreboot

    http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=102260&seqNum=6

    Customizing & automating Win installations:

    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc977160.aspx

    OR:

    Boot to DOS, load smartdrv, navigate to WinXP and execute WinNT.exe.

    WinNT & WinNT installation switches:

    http://www.easydesksoftware.com/I386.htm

    Abrogate need for Win install CD for Windows File Protection & device driver:

    In HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup

    Change references to CD-ROM drive to location of WinXP CD copy on HDD, e.g., x:\CD_WinXP\ (where "x" = HDD location)

    i.e., "SourcePath", "Installation Sources" & "ServicePackSourcePath".

    In HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion

    ensure that the data for the value "SourcePath" is set to or is changed to as aforementioned (without the quotes).

    Note that:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows NT\Windows File Protection

    over-rides:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SOFTWARE \ Microsoft \ Windows NT \ CurrentVersion\ Winlogon

    Add the following keys there and remove duplicates entries in former key:

    Registry Values
    SFCDisable (REG_DWORD)
    0 = enabled (default)
    1 = disabled, prompt at boot to re-enable
    2 = disabled at next boot only, no prompt to re-enable
    4 = enabled, with popups disabled

    NOTE: For options 1 and 2: Both of these options require a kernel debugger to be hooked up for those options to become useable. If a kernel debugger is not hooked up, Windows File Protection is not disabled.
    SFCScan (REG_DWORD)
    0 = do not scan protected files at boot (default)
    1 = scan protected files at every boot
    2 = scan protected files once
    SFCQuota (REG_DWORD)
    n = size (in megabytes) of dllcache quota (default is 0xffffffff or approximately 300 MB)
    FFFFFFFF = cache all protected system files on the local hard disk

    SFCDllCacheDir (REG_EXPAND_SZ)
    Path = local or network location of dllcache folder (default is %SystemRoot%\System32, e.g., x:\DllCache\)

    Copy \Windows\system32\DllCache to x:\DllCache (or create it on x:\ if not exist)

    NOTE: Network shares for the dllcache directory are no longer supported.
    SFCShowProgress (REG_DWORD)
    0 = System File Checker progress meter is not displayed (default)
    1 = System File Checker progress meter is displayed
     
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    Trusteft HH's Asteroids' Dominator

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    Thank you but...I have already installed Windows as I said in later posts. :)
     

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